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Count of DYK Hooks
Section	# of Hooks	# Verified
November 28	1
December 1	1
December 6	1	1
December 7	1
December 11	2
December 12	1
December 14	1
December 15	2
December 18	2
December 22	1
December 24	2
December 25	2	1
December 26	3	1
December 27	3
December 29	2
December 30	1
December 31	3
January 1	3
January 2	3	1
January 3	2	1
January 4	1
January 6	2
January 7	2
January 8	2
January 9	5	2
January 10	4	1
January 11	4	1
January 12	7	2
January 13	4
January 14	3	1
January 15	3	1
January 16	3	1
January 17	1
January 18	3	2
January 19	3	2
January 20	4	1
January 21	3	1
January 22	3
January 23	6	2
January 24	4	2
January 25	6	3
January 26	10	2
January 27	8	1
January 28	4
January 29	6	3
January 30	7	5
January 31	8	3
February 1	8	2
February 2	6	2
February 3	10	4
February 4	6
February 5	13	4
February 6	7
February 7	7	4
February 8	5
February 9
Total	215	57
Last updated 06:07, 9 February 2024 UTC Current time is 06:08, 9 February 2024 UTC [refresh]

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Advanced procedures

How to promote an accepted hook

At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area

See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for details on verifying a hook's acceptability. Promoters should not promote their own nomination or their own review. When promoting hooks intended for a particular date, keep in mind that when the number of available approved nominations exceeds 120 we switch to two sets per day, and when that number drops below 60 we return to one set per day. Check list for nomination review completeness Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: . Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed. Any outstanding issue following needs to be addressed before promoting. Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed. Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot. Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated). Hook should make sense grammatically. Try to vary subject matters within each prep area. Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set. Steps to add a hook to prep In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote. In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to. Wanna skip all this fuss? Install WP:PSHAW instead! Does most of the heavy lifting for ya :) For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue. Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number. Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot. Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end. Check that there's a bold link to the article. If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template. Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom Check your work in the prep's Preview mode. At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake. Save the Prep page. Closing the DYK nomination page At the upper left Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage Change |passed= to |passed=yes At the bottom Just above the line containing }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.--> insert a new, separate line containing one of the following: To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]] To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]] To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]] To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]] To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]] To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]] To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]] Also paste the same thing into the edit summary. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom. Save. For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources:

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How to remove a rejected hook

• Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
• In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

• Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
• Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
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• If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

• Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on November 28

History of Darul Uloom Deoband

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• ... that Syed Mehboob Rizwi's History of Darul Uloom Deoband is the first and authoritative source on the institution's history, upholding a legacy of continuous publication? Source: Qasmi, Muhammadullah (2016). Darul Uloom Deoband Ki Jame O Mukhtasar Tareekh (PDF) (in Urdu). India: Shaikh-Ul-Hind Academy. p. 39. OCLC 1345466013.
  • Reviewed:

Created by Owais Al Qarni (talk). Self-nominated at 15:19, 28 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/History of Darul Uloom Deoband; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Long enough, new enough. No maintenance templates found, AGF on sources. QPQ unnecessary. First hooks are discouraged - what else have you got?--Launchballer 13:21, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• @Launchballer: I don't believe it's relevant to mention 'First hooks are discouraged' here as the content area is quite limited. I've pinned @TheAafi: for further discussion.–Owais Al Qarni (talk) 15:52, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
  • I'm unsure what I can contribute to this discussion but I somewhat agree with Launchballer. The hook needs some modifications. Do you have an alternate hook? I understand the book is considered primary and authoritative source of institution's history. Perhaps do some rework and rewording? ─ The Aafī (talk) 15:55, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• ALT1: that Syed Mehboob Rizwi's History of Darul Uloom Deoband is the earliest authoritative work on institution's history? –Owais Al Qarni (talk) 15:50, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

  @Launchballer: What about ALT1?–Owais Al Qarni (talk) 15:50, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Same problem. I think you should think of a different hook altogether.--Launchballer 18:14, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

• ALT2: ... that Syed Mehboob Rizwi's History of Darul Uloom Deoband traces the institution's hundred-year journey, maintaining a tradition of continuous publication? Source: Qasmi, Muhammadullah (2016). Darul Uloom Deoband Ki Jame O Mukhtasar Tareekh (PDF) (in Urdu). India: Shaikh-Ul-Hind Academy. p. 39. OCLC 1345466013.

@Launchballer: What about ALT2?–Owais Al Qarni (talk) 01:58, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Better, although I'd expect a more merciless prepbuilder to crop 'maintaining' onwards, and perhaps "the institution" should be wikilinked. Let's roll.--Launchballer 10:24, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer: Here's the modified text: ... that Syed Mehboob Rizwi's History of Darul Uloom Deoband traces the institution's hundred-year journey? –Owais Al Qarni (talk) 05:13, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Also fine.--Launchballer 09:11, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

• Unpromoted as uninteresting per WP:ERRORS / Special:Diff/1200957927. RoySmith (talk) 16:35, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
  • The nom in a DYK newcomer and cat-lover, so I'm willing to put in some extra effort on this. Perhaps something along the lines of:
    • ALT3: ... that History of Darul Uloom Deoband has been called "the most important effort in the history of [the seminary]" but "lacking ... critical understanding and objectivity"?

RoySmith (talk) 16:59, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

With a few minor tweaks, I could approve:

• ALT4: ... that History of Darul Uloom Deoband has been called "the most important effort in [its] history" but "lacking [...] critical understanding and objectivity"?

That's if I'm not too involved to do so.--Launchballer 10:47, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

I like that. RoySmith (talk) 16:52, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Alright, let's try this again.--Launchballer 19:44, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset, Bruxton, and AirshipJungleman29: given the discussion at WT:DYK#WP:DYKRR about approving hooks maybe this needs a different approver? RoySmith (talk) 22:56, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

I think this instance is fine; it is Launchballer approving a shortened version of RoySmith's hook. As a promoter, I routinely trim hooks I have "approved by promoting", so I don't see an issue here. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:06, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

RoySmith, perhaps we should get someone else to check hooks here, given that it was Launchballer who approved the hook that was pulled. (I have struck that hook and all other except for ALT4 to avoid possible confusion.) I am puzzled by both quotes in ALTs 3 and 4, given that the article text, called it the most important effort in the history of Darul Uloom Deoband and lacking the critical understanding and objectivity necessary for a comprehensive discourse are in neither case surrounded by double quotes, which imply that these are someone's exact words. Are these translations of quoted material from the original Urdu, in which case they should be quoted, or are they paraphrases of the Urdu, in which case they shouldn't be quoted in either place? If they are paraphrases—and we would need confirmation of this one way or the other—then perhaps the following modification might work:

• ALT5: ... that History of Darul Uloom Deoband has been called the most important effort in the seminary's existence, but also said to be lacking necessary critical understanding and objectivity?

I used "seminary" based on Darul Uloom Deoband's article's lede, though the term would need to be added to the nominated article, so "institiution" from the original hooks, with or without wikilink, may be preferable. However, "seminary" does give important general context. Pinging nominator Owais Al Qarni to comment on this and also hopefully to help on the translation/quotation issue as well. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm good with ALT5, and agree about the quoting. RoySmith (talk) 19:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

• ALT6: ... that the History of Darul Uloom Deoband has been called the most important effort in the institution's historical literature, but also said to be lacking necessary critical understanding and objectivity? Source: Qasmi, Muhammadullah (2016). Darul Uloom Deoband Ki Jame O Mukhtasar Tareekh (PDF) (in Urdu). India: Shaikh-Ul-Hind Academy. p. 39. OCLC 1345466013., Akhtar, Muhammad Naveed (2022). "Darul Ulum Deoband: Preserving Religious And Cultural Integrity Of South Asian Muslims Through Structural And Strategic Innovations". Hamdard Islamicus. 45 (3): 84. doi:10.57144/hi.v45i3.326. ISSN 0250-7196. S2CID 252890505. Archived from the original on 9 December 2022. Retrieved 26 December 2023.

@BlueMoonset, RoySmith, AirshipJungleman29, and Bruxton: As a nominator, I presented ALT6, which is precisely based on the sources.–Owais Al Qarni (talk) 08:43, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

New reviewer needed, as we may be all too involved at this point. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:34, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

At 203 characters, Alt6 is too long. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:44, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

ALT6a: ... that the History of Darul Uloom Deoband is the most important effort in the institution's historical literature, but also said to be lacking necessary critical understanding and objectivity? Source: Qasmi, Muhammadullah (2016). Darul Uloom Deoband Ki Jame O Mukhtasar Tareekh (PDF) (in Urdu). India: Shaikh-Ul-Hind Academy. p. 39. OCLC 1345466013., Akhtar, Muhammad Naveed (2022). "Darul Ulum Deoband: Preserving Religious And Cultural Integrity Of South Asian Muslims Through Structural And Strategic Innovations". Hamdard Islamicus. 45 (3): 84. doi:10.57144/hi.v45i3.326. ISSN 0250-7196. S2CID 252890505. Archived from the original on 9 December 2022. Retrieved 26 December 2023.

Paul_012–Owais Al Qarni (talk) 02:39, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

• I'm afraid we can't say in wikivoice that it is the most important effort since only one person says that; we can, however, say that it has been called that. Owais Al Qarni, based on your use of "institution's historical literature", I'm wondering if the article saying that Muhammadullah Qasmi called it the most important effort in the history of Darul Uloom Deoband means he meant in the history of Darul Uloom Deoband as an institution (that is, the most important thing ever done by Darul Uloom Deoband)—which is how I've been interpreting it—or the most important of the histories written about the institution Darul Uloom Deoband, or simply the most important history of any kind, religious or otherwise, written there. If not the first of those, please clarify. Thank you! (I've struck both ALT6 variants.) BlueMoonset (talk) 05:21, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

BlueMoonset, I just skimmed over Khalili's comments on Rizwi's book. He considers the book an important and worthy effort for documenting the institution's history, and closes the comment stating, "This book encompasses almost this history of over 100-year events and services of the Darul Uloom Deoband. On the seminary's history, this book is the most primary and reliable source, and is being continuously published". I haven't checked with the other source and only presented a rough translation of what Khalili has commented.─ Aafī (talk) 18:55, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 1

Disappearance of Cecilia Strzyzowski

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• ... that the 2023 Argentine provincial elections were overshadowed by the disappearance of Cecilia Strzyzowski? Source: https://cnnespanol.cnn.com/2023/06/15/cecilia-strzyzowski-femicidio-desaparicion-joven-28-anos-argentina-orix/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Honour Chen-Williams
  • Comment: notable event in Argentina

Created by Moondragon21 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:18, 1 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Disappearance of Cecilia Strzyzowksi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• passerby question: is there a typo in the title of the article? i am assuming that it should be "Disappearance of Cecilia Strzyzowski" [underline added] rather than "Disappearance of Cecilia Strzyzowksi" [underline added]. dying (talk) 23:59, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, it should be Strzyzowski. The article title and hook are fixed. It looks like there are a couple references that have the letters transposed. gobonobo ^{+ c} 15:00, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Hey Moondragon21, there are a few citation errors (named references defined multiple times with different content) that have been in the article since the initial translation. I'm not seeing these errors in the Spanish article. gobonobo ^{+ c} 15:00, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: Hi Gobonobo, I have fixed the references there are no citation errors now. Moondragon21 (talk) 20:51, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

• Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:18, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Several paragraphs have citation needed tags, which I have annotated accordingly. I will review this when they are remedied.--Launchballer 00:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Launchballer ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 04:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Moondragon21: Maintenance templates remedied. Long enough, new enough, no neutrality issues found, no valid copyright concerns; QPQ done. I'm pretty sure that "the media agreed that the murder case had an influence on the results" means the same as overshadow, and I don't read Spanish, so AGF on the source. That Chronology section is obviously incomplete as there is a large hole between the end of June and the beginning of August, and the prose makes mention of events happening in July. I'd like to see that section completed per WP:DYKCOMPLETE.--Launchballer 13:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Launchballer, I have now translated July 2023. Moondragon21 (talk) 18:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Fine by me. I have to ask, did anything happen on this case after August 2023?--Launchballer 19:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Moondragon21: I just put "Cecilia Strzyzowski" into Google News and there appears (going on Google Translate) that there seems to be later events after August. Is there a reason they're missing?--Launchballer 11:58, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi Launchballer. The timeline on the Spanish article ended abruptly in August but I can add later events to this timeline. Moondragon21 (talk) 21:57, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Please do. Ping me when done.--Launchballer 15:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 7

Music of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance

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• ... that the music of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance was designed to be reactive to the players actions and in-game events? Source: https://www.nme.com/en_au/features/gaming-features/metal-gear-rising-composer-talks-meme-resurgence-and-lyrical-boss-fights-3249361
  • ALT1: ... that some lyrics in the music of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance were compared to historical buffalo hunting? Source: https://www.thevideogamelibrary.org/book/rules-of-nature (no direct link to the PDF, as it got delisted from Google Books)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment

Created by NegativeMP1 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:53, 7 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Music of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is well-referenced and appears to use good reliable sources for the topic. Both hooks seem okay, though I'd slightly prefer ALT1. Kafoxe (talk) 19:43, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

• I have pulled this hook per comments at WT:DYK, here. Article will need a copyedit before being promoted and hooks also need work. Gatoclass (talk) 12:20, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

• @NegativeMP1:, this is the part of the text I have the biggest issue with:

Alexandra additionally praised more tracks in the game, describing two specific ones, "Collective Consciousness" and "The Hot Wind Blowing", to have similar themes to American soldiers and westward expansion throughout history. Noting both songs to use the word "blindly" to demonstrate their themes, "Collective Consciousness" was believed to focus more on the population, with "The Hot Wind Blowing" focusing on the relationship between the population and the soldiers, with the latter using what was described as a "buffalo image" to invoke similarities between the hunting and near extinction of buffalo and the historical image of "American carelessness".[10]: 32–33

Since I still have no real idea what this is supposed to mean exactly, and the source is offline, would you mind quoting the relevant part of the source for me so I can figure out a possible rephrase? Thanks - Gatoclass (talk) 11:52, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

@Gatoclass: Fairly big section that is having to be quoted (possibly copyright violating but I don't think so) but here: "Perhaps the greatest condemnations of all are actually removed from ludic interactions or the more overt sections of the script. They are found in the lyrics to two songs: “Collective Consciousness” and “The Hot Wind Blowing”. “The Hot Wind Blowing” is Khamsin’s theme and focuses on the blind obedience of soldiers: * Note that Revengeance was released before the advent of Donald Trump’s nightmarish 2016 presidential bid. [... (lyrics here)...] The buffalo image evokes ideas of wanton destruction and desecration. During westward expansion, thousands of buffalo were killed for their meat and hunted to the point of near extinction. Today, they are a near threatened species but by the turn of the twentieth century, the recorded number of buffalo sat at around three hundred total. The lyrics combine this historical image of American carelessness with ideas of blind obedience. Revengeance goes to great lengths to talk about the complexities that draw people into war when it forces the player to listen to NPC character thoughts and motives during the Denver scenario. However, it also offers a prognostication where soldiers wait for orders, follow them without question, and only try to justify their actions after the fact. The song Collective Unconsciousness plays during the battle with Metal Gear EXCELSUS, focusing more on the general populous. [...lyrics here...] The song makes demands of the public. Obedience to the country entails giving up your mind and swearing allegiance. There’s no questioning anything. The word “blindly” is used again, as it was in “The Hot Wind Blowing”. The lyrics make an equivalency between soldiers and the public. The same thing is demanded of both: ignore the real cost of their happiness, justify the actions that granted it. The public’s solution is to engage in gross product consumption. Combined, the songs create a dark picture and call out the worst aspects of first world behavior." It's from pages 25-26. λ NegativeMP1 17:21, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

@Gatoclass and NegativeMP1: I copyedited the article a bit, especially that part, let me know if you both think it's clear now. BuySomeApples (talk) 02:50, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

@BuySomeApples: that is much better, thanks! The article still needs a little more general copyediting though, which I can probably manage myself, and then I might have to take a look at the hooks again. But you have fixed the biggest issue, much appreciated :) Gatoclass (talk) 09:04, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

I have given the article a bit of a copyedit, although there are still numerous issues with the text - but not enough, I think, to prevent it being featured at DYK (though it should still probably be listed at GAR). However, there is still no viable hook. I have struck ALT1 as incomprehensible, while so far as I can see, ALT0 isn't supported by the article text. Pinging @NegativeMP1: and @BuySomeApples: for comment. Gatoclass (talk) 00:29, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

ALT0 is supposed to be summarized by the "Implementation in-game" section. In fact, from what I can see, it does. I greatly appreciate your copyediting where you see fit, even if I disagree with the initial "incomprehensible" judgment, but "designed to be reactive to the players actions" is summarized by that entire section. Even by the first sentence, "The soundtrack is adaptive to gameplay, with lyrics being implemented in real-time according to what is happening in-game." λ NegativeMP1 02:46, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

I resent the statement, as the person who reviewed this article at GAN, that the article needs a GAR, and encourage you next time to ping me or go to my talk if you have objections to my work. I will concede that, as someone who likes Metal Gear, likes Metal Gear Rising, and has played games for more than a decade, my knowledge and experience of gaming and the structure of games, and excitement for this nomination, prevented me from doing as good a job making this article as comprehensible to as many readers as I could have. But I will not concede that it is a mystery how it passed GAN. –♠Vamí_IV†♠ 03:25, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Okay NegativeMP1, on a re-reading of the paragraph in question and the underlying sources, I concede that they confirm the music is "reactive to the player's actions" to some degree. But here's another issue: half of the paragraph is meaningless unless you read the underlying source for clarity. For instance, the following sentence: An example of this is the track "The Only Thing I Know For Real", the boss theme for Jetstream Sam, being arranged to "represent his inner thoughts being overtaken by concentration" in the words of NME.[5] It fails to mention the essential detail of how this effect is achieved, namely by fading out the vocal line at the height of the battle. The previous sentence, Platinum arranged and mixed Christopherson's work with the Wwise engine to "kick in at the height of the boss battles", and make them fit with the motivations of each character, is almost equally problematic. The sentence is essentially presenting three separate pieces of information that have no apparent relation to one another. How does the fact that the music "kicks in" at a certain point relate to the fact that it "fits with the motivations of each character"? There is no obvious link, thus the sentence only confuses. There are similar issues throughout the article. Gatoclass (talk) 03:54, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Update: I have done more some editing to the article to address the issues raised above. It could still use some work but is probably sufficiently coherent to be promoted now. There is still the problem of finding a viable hook though; ALT0 is not exactly wrong, but it's not very interesting and I can't help thinking there ought to be a better hook in there somewhere. I might try to propose one or two a little later, after which I will ask for a new reviewer as my work on the article to this point has disqualified me in that role. Gatoclass (talk) 23:52, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 11

Ingush towers

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Pyaling tower complex in Ingushetia

• ... that Ingushetia is often called “the country of towers" after the Ingush towers, unique medieval monuments found throughout the region? Source: In the Middle Ages, a period of revival of the tower culture of the North Caucasus began, the phenomenon of which, according to researchers, mostly manifested in the mountains of Ingushetia, which was labeled by many as “the country of towers", to the extent that in 2022 the region's tourism committee announced that the Federal Service for Intellectual Property (Russia) patented the slogan "Ingushetia — Country of Towers". link: https://gazetaingush.ru/news/komitet-po-turizmu-regiona-poluchil-patent-na-ispolzovanie-slogana-ingushetiya-rodina-bashen
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Created by Muqale (talk). Self-nominated at 06:57, 11 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ingush towers; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Very good first article, thank you. No need for QPQ, article long enough, cited, picture freely licensed, passes earwig, all good to go. Onceinawhile (talk) 23:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

This hook was pulled from the Queue. The text from WT:DYK has been copy-pasted below. When this is resolved, this can be reapproved. Z1720 (talk) 16:04, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

There is uncited prose in the article, which I have marked with a cn tag. I also think the block quote at the end of the "Towers with pyramidal roofs" section is too long and opens Wikipedia up to copyright concerns. This should be summarised in the article instead. Z1720 (talk) 18:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

There are more issues. The quote about the "land of towers" translates as "birthplace of towers" for me. Also, this looks like an unattributed translation from ruwiki. —Kusma (talk) 19:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello Kusma, the Russian word "родина" translates as "homeland". As a proficient Russian and English speaker, I didn't feel that "homeland of towers" was a good way to translate the slogan, so I shortened it to "land of towers". But if you feel that "homeland of towers" is more accurate, I have no issues with keeping your suggestion. Muqale⠀ོ 18:24, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

@Muqale, I think the source with "родина башен" is not sufficient for the "country of towers" claim in the hook. Speaking of sources, I just checked Dolgieva et al. p 136 ([1]), and could not see any mention of Ingushetia as "country of towers". Could you give a more explicit source that confirms "country of towers" or "land of towers" instead of "homeland of towers"? —Kusma (talk) 20:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

@Muqale: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 16:18, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Sarah McCreanor

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• ... that Sarah McCreanor, known online as the "Hydraulic Press Girl", appeared in around 70 commercials? Source: https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/brands-should-be-tapping-the-actors-on-set-for-better-marketing-tips/; the "Hydraulic Press Girl" part is supported by https://www.smh.com.au/culture/dance/she-s-been-an-avocado-and-a-vegemite-jar-and-youtube-can-t-get-enough-20231204-p5eosn.html
  • ALT1: that Sarah McCreanor is known online as the "Hydraulic Press Girl"? Source: https://www.smh.com.au/culture/dance/she-s-been-an-avocado-and-a-vegemite-jar-and-youtube-can-t-get-enough-20231204-p5eosn.html
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  • Comment: Editor's second DYK nomination.

Moved to mainspace by GMH Melbourne (talk). Nominated by ObserveOwl (talk) at 08:21, 14 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sarah McCreanor; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• A possible alternative hook, which is simpler, could simply be ALT1... that Sarah McCreanor is known online as the "Hydraulic Press Girl"? I'll leave it to the reviewer on what hook they prefer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:47, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

I like it, but that fact alone wasn't directly supported by the article (it just states that the series is called "Hydraulic Press Girl"). The hook I suggested focuses on her acting in commercials, which is mentioned. I've now added that fact to the article and support the alt hook. ObserveOwl (chit-chat • my doings) 16:15, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

@ObserverOwl: Technically the BoingBoing article on the page specifically calls her Hydraulic Press Girl. BuySomeApples (talk) 02:53, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I just didn't add that fact to the article at the time of nomination. The Sydney Morning Herald says that "On YouTube, she is known as Hydraulic Press Girl", so I used this source to verify that. ObserveOwl (chit-chat • my doings) 07:01, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

• Firstly, the "controversy" section arguably has BLP issues. Secondly I am inclined to agree with Narutolovehinata5's implication that the "70 commercials" clause in ALT0 is superfluous, distracting and not very interesting. Gatoclass (talk) 01:03, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Yea, I had lots of doubts about that section. I left it for the AfC reviewer to see if it was OK. I see that Tamzin removed the alleged identity of the accused, so was that enough to follow BLP? Again, I support ALT1. ObserveOwl (chit-chat • my doings) 08:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

I think the BLP issue has been resolved now, but my concern is with the hooks, that make her sound like a salesperson for hydraulic presses. Not sure what to do about that. I've noticed in the sources that she's played both an avocado and a jar of vegemite, and you'd think there'd be a decent hook in there someplace, I just can't seem to come up with one. Gatoclass (talk) 05:47, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Fair. Could the hook just mention the contents of the videos themselves, e.g. that Sarah McCreanor imitates objects under hydraulic presses through dance? ObserveOwl (chit-chat • my doings) 09:11, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Or even that Sarah McCreanor is known online as the "Hydraulic Press Girl" for her dance videos? That would clarify she doesn't have that kind of job and make readers even more intrigued as to why. ObserveOwl (chit-chat • my doings) 09:01, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 14

Maternity care deserts in the United States

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• ... that 36% of counties in America are maternal care deserts? Source: https://www.marchofdimes.org/research/maternity-care-deserts-report.aspx
  • ALT1: ... that for 6 million women giving birth in America is dangerous? Source: https://magazine.nursing.jhu.edu/2023/08/confronting-the-issue-of-maternity-care-deserts/
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Created by Kristudent194 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:52, 14 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Maternal Care Deserts in America; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• current cleanup banner in the article will need to be fixed before this article can be promoted at DYK. Additionally, I'm not sure the second hook is good. Women with uncomplicated pregnancy may not face any dangers due to lack of medical care. The source would need to meet WP:MEDRS. (t · c) buidhe 08:17, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

• ALT0 might be too short, I'd suggest something like "classified as MCDs" rather than "are MCDs" Orchastrattor (talk) 04:39, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

• First let me say that this is a really important article, and I thank you for adding it to Wikipedia. I've done some additional cleanup on the grammar. Regarding the alts, I've struck the originals re: the comments above and am suggesting slight modifications below.
  • ALTa : that 36% of counties in the United States are classified as maternal care deserts? Source: https://www.marchofdimes.org/research/maternity-care-deserts-report.aspx taking this suggestion and creating an alt for it. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:44, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
  • ALT1a: ... that for 6 million women giving birth in America is more dangerous? Source: https://magazine.nursing.jhu.edu/2023/08/confronting-the-issue-of-maternity-care-deserts/ - this is not a big change but it marks the important point that for women in maternal care deserts, pregnancy risk is increased. Not everyone will have problems, but the possibility of problems is higher for everyone. The alt becomes more hooky as it then sparks the question "Why is it more dangerous for these women?" Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:44, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

The nominator, Kristudent194, has not edited Wikipedia since Dec. 19. Unless the user returns, or someone is willing to take over this nomination, I am closing this as abandoned. Z1720 (talk) 15:07, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Z1720:, I would be willing to take it over if someone wants to review. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 20:35, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Mary Mark Ockerbloom: Is this ready to be re-reviewed? Z1720 (talk) 23:28, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
• @Z1720:, I believe so, I just did a few minor edits and rephrased the opening sentence so that it uses the title of the article. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 19:15, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

ALT1a invites the obvious question "more dangerous than what"? so obviously needs clarification. Gatoclass (talk) 05:55, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

ALTa looks fine, except that the figure of 36% is not in the article. Other than that, there are still a couple of in-text tags that need addressing. Gatoclass (talk) 06:04, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

@Mary Mark Ockerbloom: It's been a few days since the above comment, will you be able to address the remaining issues? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:04, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 15

DIY medicine

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• ... that DIY medicine is used for abortion, transgender hormone therapy, insulin delivery, erectile dysfunction, protective equipment against COVID, and epinephrine injectors?
  • ALT1: ... that some DIY medicine is safe and effective? Source: "the quality of glucose control achieved with DIY AID systems is impressively good", "Self-managed abortion with medications is safe and effective."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2022 open letter from Nobel laureates in support of Ukraine

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 08:14, 15 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/DIY medicine; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Buidhe: good work. This is subjective, but I have noticed that the article has an orphan tag. Could you please add a link or remove the tag if you cannot find any? Both hooks are good, but leaning towards ALT1 as more concise. (please  mention me on reply) Queen of Hearts ❤️ (she/they 🎄 🏳️‍⚧️) 19:12, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

• Queen Thanks for your review. The article is now de-orphaned. (t · c) buidhe 19:18, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
  • Looks good to me. Queen of Hearts ❤️ (she/they 🎄 🏳️‍⚧️) 19:19, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
• I don't know about either hook. Wouldn't both hooks as written possibly violate WP:MEDRS given they could be interpreted as endorsements? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:15, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Is there a specific part of WP:MEDRS that you could point to? ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 02:22, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Not necessarily, more of I remember there being a previous medicine-related nomination a few years ago, Template:Did you know nominations/Young blood transfusion, where the hooks could have been interpreted as promoting questionable medical practices. The hooks themselves aren't as problematic but they are enough to give me pause at least. The sourcing in the article for what it's worth appears to be solid, but perhaps different hooks could be proposed here? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:27, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

• There's a difference between promoting WP:FRINGE medical theories widely accepted to be quackery and the cautious hooks proposed here. I'm gonna approve unless there's an issue with a specific source used. ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 17:54, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

• • Both sources are review articles, from journals that look OK, so I don't think there is a problem with MEDRS (t · c) buidhe 03:10, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
• Article has been nominated for merging; procedurally placing on hold. Queen of Hearts ❤️ (she/they 🎄 🏳️‍⚧️) 03:19, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
  • Closed as keep. ^Queenof_Hearts 18:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
• Pulled from queue per discussion at WT:DYK, see Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#DIY_medicine. —Kusma (talk) 15:55, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
• Pinging both Buidhe and Queen of Hearts regarding the future of this nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:43, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Honestly I think a sensitive topic like this needs more sensitive treatment than it gets here, the article is just too basic. Recommending closing this as a fail. Maybe it could be reconsidered at another time after being brought up to GA standard. Gatoclass (talk) 00:23, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

What makes it a sensitive topic? (t · c) buidhe 01:24, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

The fact that you have to ask only confirms my impression that you don't get the problem. The problem is that in no way, shape or form should we be running an article that might give people encouragement to start self-medicating. If you weren't paying attention over the last few years, for example, there were thousands of people taking quack medicines to try and protect themselves from covid, and tens of millions who have been convinced by something they read on the internet that covid vaccines are dangerous. There are, in short, armies of people out there who are vulnerable to quack medicine, and we shouldn't be be running an article that might help reinforce their misplaced confidence in self-diagnosis. Gatoclass (talk) 04:14, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia's purpose is provide information, not protect people from information (for whatever reasons). We shouldn't be promoting stuff—and the article does not promote anything. All I did was look for sources and report what they said in accordance with Wikipedia policies. None of the misinterpretations you suggest are remotely said or implied by the article or any of the suggested hooks. (t · c) buidhe 05:06, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

We are supposed to provide accurate and balanced information, not just random facts apt to mislead. So I'm sorry, but I think an article on a topic like this needs much more comprehensive and balanced treatment than it is getting here. Gatoclass (talk) 06:11, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

I still haven't seen a compelling rationale based in reliable sources that this article is "unbalanced" or that anything in the article is likely to mislead anyone. No it is not comprehensive but that is not an expectation for any article at DYK. (t · c) buidhe 07:16, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Isn't the very point of any medicine to be safe and effective? Bremps... 03:10, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Off topic but I'm not sure that's true—many medical treatments have serious risks, but are nevertheless administered because their benefits are believed to exceed the risks for that individual. (t · c) buidhe 07:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

John A. Hilger (second nomination)

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• ... that John A. Hilger was the deputy commander of the Doolittle Raid? Source: https://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/entries/hilger-john-allen-jack
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Phomen Singh

Improved to Good Article status by Toadboy123 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:33, 15 December 2023‎ (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/John A. Hilger (second nomination); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• • @Onegreatjoke: @RoySmith: @Jon698: @Narutolovehinata5: Re-opening this discussion as the article has passed GA after I edited the article extensively to remove any copyright issues. Toadboy123 (talk) 07:28, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
• I'm going to ask for assistance from someone with the technical know-how, perhaps either Theleekycauldron or Vaticidalprophet, because this page should not have been a copypaste of the original nomination but should have been a clean, new nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
  • Narutolovehinata5, Toadboy123, as this is supposed to be a totally new nomination, I have deleted everything from the prior review (except maybe the hook). This includes the QPQ, which was supplied by Onegreatjoke for that particular nomination and was used for it even though it didn't ultimately pass; Toadboy123 will need to supply their own QPQ for this new nomination. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:29, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
    • @BlueMoonset: Completed a new QPQ as per requested. - Toadboy123 (talk) 12:29, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

• Full review needed now that QPQ has been provided. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:07, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

@Toadboy123: It has been almost a year since this article was withdrawn here at DYK and I see much work has been done to make corrections. A few issues: should we repeat the claim "was commissioned in the U.S. Army Air Corps in 1934" in the body? It is a minor thing that can be corrected on the fly. We also say in the lead he was "selected by Doolittle" but the article only says "Hilger, now a lieutenant colonel, was designated as the deputy commander for the "Doolittle Raid," a mission led by Lieutenant Colonel Jimmy Doolittle in March 1942". Right now both claims are in the lead but not repeated in the body. Also we say "he piloted one of the B-25s that bombed Nagoya in Japan" but the Doolittle section of the article does not say that he was flying a B-25.

Earwig alerts only to long professional titles. I spot checked several references and the citations were correctly used. The QPQ is done and the article was a new GA so it qualifies for DYK. The hook may require a person to have specialized knowledge. Like what is the Doolittle raid? What era? What war? What country? The hook is cited but I think we should explore another based on DYKCRIT

Hooks should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest.

I am comfortable that the article is free of obvious plagiarism and clop. The article is neutral and no image is offered here but certainly could be. We say he "bail out over the city of Shangrao", maybe it is assumed but we should probably add how he bailed with a parachute. Suggestion.

• ALT1: ... that during World War II, US pilot John A. Hilger had to bail out of his aircraft behind enemy lines?
• ALT2: ... that US pilot John A. Hilger flew his aircraft in a bombing mission over Japan during World War II, but he did not have enough fuel to return? Bruxton (talk) 22:43, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
  • @Bruxton: How about ALT3: ...that due to his participation in the Doolittle Raid, John A. Hilger was not allowed to fly any missions while assigned in the China Burma India Theater during World War II? Let me know if this is fine by you. - Toadboy123 (talk) 00:37, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

@Toadboy123: It does not interest me. A bit too busy. Also see if you can address my other nitpicks. Bruxton (talk) 00:55, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

@Bruxton: Ok, I will go for ALT2 as it seems more interesting. - Toadboy123 (talk) 01:05, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

@Toadboy123: I am hoping to pass the nomination, but I mentioned items that need fixing. Bruxton (talk) 02:37, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

@Toadboy123: malformed ping Bruxton (talk) 15:21, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

@Bruxton: I have made stated edits. - Toadboy123 (talk) 03:59, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

@Toadboy123: Not yet, two still unfinished items from my initial review Bruxton (talk) 04:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

@Bruxton: Did some of your edit requests. Please let me know if there is anything more to be resolved. - Toadboy123 (talk) 06:04, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I have it called out in my first review above.

"was commissioned in the U.S. Army Air Corps in 1934" is not in the body

"selected by Doolittle" is not in the body

Bruxton (talk) 06:09, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

@Bruxton I have fixed these issues. Let me know now if the article is good to go. - Toadboy123 (talk) 01:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Bruxton (talk) 01:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

New reviewer needed as ALT2 was created by the reviewer. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Planes of the Doolittle Raid weren't supposed to return - they were supposed to fly on to China, so ALT2 is kind of misleading. One could perhaps go with something like:

• ALT4: ... that John A. Hilger was deputy commander of the Doolittle Raid, a one-way bombing mission against Japan in 1942?
• ALT5: ... that John A. Hilger was deputy commander of the first American bombing mission to strike the Japanese mainland in World War II? Gatoclass (talk) 02:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

I like your hooks but now we need more reviewers. Bruxton (talk) 01:40, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes Bruxton I know that, but proposing alt hooks at times is part of the reviewing process. One cannot promote a nomination unless it has a viable hook. Gatoclass (talk) 03:49, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Bruxton, unless there's a new rule I'm not aware of I think you're allowed to approve Gatoclass's hooks. Both need an end-of-sentence citation in the article though. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:52, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Renumbering Gatoclass's two alts as ALT4 and ALT5, since an ALT3 had previously been proposed back on 24 January (which I have just struck per Bruxton's comment that followed). BlueMoonset (talk) 19:56, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer needed for ALTs 4 and 5. Gatoclass (talk) 00:50, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 18

D-Date

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• ... that Japanese boy band D-Date was created to celebrate Watanabe Entertainment's 10th anniversary using members from their male acting troupe, D-Boys? Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20170815175903/https://www.nikkansports.com/entertainment/news/f-et-tp0-20100321-608408.html
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Poison: Iitai Koto mo Ienai Konna Yo no Naka wa

5x expanded by Lullabying (talk). Self-nominated at 20:26, 23 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/D-Date; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• @Lullabying: This isn't turning up as a 5x expansion (1101 → 3471 characters). It'd need to be 5505 characters to qualify. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:21, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
  • Thanks for letting me know. I'll add more info as I go. lullabying (talk) 21:31, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
  • Can you check now? lullabying (talk) 22:54, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
    • Still no. I'm getting prose size 5309. —David Eppstein (talk) 03:33, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
      • Almost there! I can make the word count. lullabying (talk) 20:28, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
      • Asking for prose size now? lullabying (talk) 04:01, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
        • Seems to be ready for a full review (DYKcheck is giving a prose size of 6,820 characters; XTools says 6,821 characters). Epicgenius (talk) 00:03, 1 January 2024 (UTC)'
• I'll give this a full review when the following issue is addressed, but I'm putting this out of the way now: I'm not exactly a fan of the hook. It seems a bit reliant on knowledge of the associated names/links. Can a different hook be proposed here? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:26, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
• ALT1: "... that the Japanese boy band D-Date promoted a song through a short film where the audience had to guess who was the traitor?" Source: https://www.sponichi.co.jp/entertainment/news/2012/01/20/kiji/K20120120002464400.html lullabying (talk) 20:13, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, that sounds a lot better. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:15, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

• I was originally planning to review this, but I've been caught up in real-life matters and may not be able to return to this anytime soon, so I'm asking for a new review. The new hook is noted though, and per the comments above is the only one left for consideration. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 22

James Townsend (abolitionist)

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• ... that the grandson of abolitionist James Townsend was the first United States man to complete teacher training under the tutelage of Maria Montessori? Source: McGroarty, John Steven (1921). Los Angeles from the Mountains to the Sea. American Historical Society. p. 503.

• ALT-1 (added Jan. 6) ... that, after becoming "convinced of the evils of slavery", James Townsend left Kentucky for Indiana?

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Haewoojae

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 00:34, 22 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/James Townsend (abolitionist); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• This is only a comment rather than a review, but I would suggest proposing a hook about Townsend himself as the current hook is more about his grandson than himself. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:16, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
• @Chetsford: Will you be able to propose additional hooks? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:27, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Given that no one else has reviewed this, I am taking the initiative to review this. The article is new enough and the nomination was done on the day the article was created. A QPQ has been found and no close paraphrasing was found.

However, I am not happy with the state of the article. It is very incomplete regarding Townsend's life. For one thing, no reference or context is given for his year of birth as well as his date of death. The date of death is only mentioned in the lead but it is not elaborated on in the article. Indeed, nothing about his life between the Panic of 1837 and his death is explained at all in the article. In addition, about half of the article if not over half of it is actually about his family and descendants, rather than about Townsend himself. Considering that the article is supposed to be about Townsend and much of the article is not about him, I do not think the article as it stands passes WP:DYKCOMPLETE.

Finally, as mentioned above, the hook above is not about Townsend himself but one of his descendants. A hook that is only indirectly about the subject is not ideal. The way I see it, I can see two potential paths forward for this nomination to pass: either the article is expanded with more information about Townsend, perhaps also including information that could be used as a hook, or the article could be renamed and its focus be changed to be more about the Townsend family rather than James Townsend himself. If these issues are not addressed then unfortunately the nomination may have to be failed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:44, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

• Thanks, Narutolovehinata5, updated. Chetsford (talk) 19:06, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, but the article is still missing a lot about his later life including information about his death. The sourcing issue for the dates of birth and death also remain unaddressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:58, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry! I thought I'd added the DOB and DOD refs but it looks like they were caught in draft state. They're now added to the infobox. What information would you like me to add about his later life and death? Chetsford (talk) 04:20, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Anything you can find about his later life. Right now the article seems incomplete. Narutolovehinata5 (talk ·contributions) 04:23, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

I solemnly avow that everything discoverable in RS is included in the article, to the best of my ability. Chetsford (talk) 04:28, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

If that's the case, then perhaps just include his death in the prose, with a reference. Still, I'm really not sure if it's a good idea that about half of the article is about his descendants rather than him himself. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:31, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Okay, that's done. I mean I guess I could delete the section about his descendants and the article would still be over the requisite character count. Chetsford (talk) 04:34, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

That wouldn't be necessary, the important think is that the part about his descendants shouldn't be half or over half the length of the article. This can be solved by beefing up the part about James. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:08, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, that would definitely be great. Chetsford (talk) 07:22, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Chetsford: Apologies for the delay in responding, but has the expansion been completed yet? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:19, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

• Hi Narutolovehinata5 - as per above, there is nothing with which to expand, unfortunately. The article, in current form, constitutes the entire universe of information on this person. Chetsford (talk) 05:31, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

• Noted. Given that most of the article is about Townsend's relatives and not he himself, unfortunately I still feel that the article is not suitable for DYK given the weight given to the parts not about him, as well as the WP:DYKCOMPLETE concerns. With this in mind, I am marking the nomination for closure as unsuccessful.

However, I will not oppose if a different editor disagrees with me and says the article can run under its current state; if this is to be done, for the reasons stated above, only ALT1 is in consideration for review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:41, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Narutolovehinata5. While I appreciate the review, I don't believe the insatiability of one's curiosity on undocumented aspects of a subject is grounds for rejection of a DYK under WP:DYKCOMPLETE provided all other criteria are met, which appears to be the case here. DYKCOMPLETE presents that all significant, available information about a subject be included in the article, and does not require us to include information about which no source exists. The fact, for instance, that we don't know the date of birth of Abu Bakr is probably not a reasonable basis to reject it under DYKCOMPLETE. That said, I appreciate your amenability to a second review. Chetsford (talk) 00:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

@Chetsford: It really isn't the lack of completeness here, it's more that I'm unhappy that most of the article is not actually about Townsend himself. Maybe WP:DYKCOMPLETE wasn't the best guideline to cite, I only mentioned it because the part about Townsend is actually very short and if the part not about him was split off/removed the article would not meet DYK's criteria. I'm not comfortable approving an article about a subject where over half of the article isn't about the subject himself, which is the reason why I'd rather reject this unfortunately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk ·contributions) 00:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

No problem, I understand. This is all voluntary and I don't expect you to approve anything you feel uncomfortable approving. Chetsford (talk) 00:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

• Per a discussion at WT:DYK, the article has been restructured with the other parts not about Townsend being moved to a different article. As such, the article is ready for a fresh look. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:24, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: The Lehman source attributes the evils of slavery quote to his grandson, but the way it's presented in the article makes it look like a direct quote. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:05, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 24

Lacey Lloyd

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• ... that producers of Hollyoaks worked with the charity "Little People UK" in order to make sure that Lacey Lloyd, who has dwarfism, was portrayed authentically? Source:
  • ALT1: ... that actress Annabelle Davis helped shape the characterisation of her character, Lacey Lloyd? Source:
  • ALT2: ... that Warwick Davis paid a public tribute to his daughter, Annabelle Davis, when she began appearing on Hollyoaks as Lacey Lloyd? Source:
  • ALT3: ... that Lacey Lloyd was introduced to Hollyoaks as the producers wanted to throwback to the earlier days of the show, where students would live together under the same roof? Source:
  • ALT4: ... that Warwick Davis watched Hollyoaks for the first time in 2023 when his daughter, Annabelle Davis, began portraying Lacey Lloyd on it? Source:
  • ALT5: ... that the role of Lacey Lloyd was not originally written for a little person? Source:
  • ALT6: ... that Annabelle Davis was approached by Hollyoaks' then-executive producer, Lucy Allan, to look at the role of Lacey Lloyd? Source:
  • ALT7: ... that actress Annabelle Davis was glad to be representing little people on screen through the character of Lacey Lloyd due to raising awareness? Source:
  • ALT8: ... that Lacey Lloyd was the first character with dwarfism to appear in Hollyoaks? Source:
  • ALT9: ... that Annabelle Davis commuted seven hours from her home near Cambridge to the Hollyoaks set in Liverpool to film as Lacey Lloyd? Source:
  • ALT10: ... that Annabelle Davis tried to make her character, Lacey Lloyd, a woman that "other disabled women would see themselves in"? Source:
  • ALT11: ... that Annabelle Davis wanted her character, Lacey Lloyd, to be professional due to the lack of little people in certain professions onscreen? Source:
  • ALT12: ... that Annabelle Davis spent time learning legal terminology in order to help her portray the role of paralegal Lacey Lloyd? Source:
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I have some other hook ideas but I did not want to overwhelm with too many. I hope these are okay for now. Please let me know if there any questions of course!

Moved to mainspace by DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk). Self-nominated at 11:40, 24 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lacey Lloyd; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Not a review (and I review oldest first so I probably wouldn't touch this any earlier than about late February), but the Metro is listed at WP:RSP as being generally unreliable, and I wouldn't use the Mirror, the Sunday People or the Evening Standard on similar grounds.--Launchballer 01:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

  @Launchballer: I have now added an additional ref to the nomination to address that problem DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 10:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Could you take the old ones out of the article?--Launchballer 10:16, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

I have removed them now DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 10:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Aside from the fact that I can still see the Sunday People on this page, they're still in the article.--Launchballer 10:34, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

I am trying to find an alternative source for the Sunday People but I have found an alternate source for the others in the meantime. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 11:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

DaniloDaysOfOurLives: I still see several instances of the Metro and the Mirror in the article. Can these be replaced or cut please?--Launchballer 15:09, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

I thought long and hard about it but I have to keep them in the article. This is because they add to it. The article still passes GNG without them, but the Mirror has a great interview from the actress which is great for the development, and as the Mirror is not deprecated (or considered unreliable in the sources table), I still used it. Regarding Metro, the soaps departments of Metro is separate from the main tabloid site (they even do a weekly Metro Soaps newsletter) and they get their information (e.g. spoilers and interviews) directly from the soaps publicity departments. Some of the information is repeated in Digital Spy and other more reliable sources, but I did not remove all of them from the article as then it would reduce a lot of the information which aids readers and would reduce the reception. There have been other fictional characters articles in recent years that have gotten GA status and DYK despite including Metro sources (including one of mine just a month ago). However, none of the current hooks rely on any Metro or Mirror sources at the moment. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 00:38, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Full review needed.--Launchballer 13:22, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm with Launchballer, the sourcing and content of this article isn't gonna fly. The fact that Metro gets its information "directly from the soaps publicity departments" isn't a plus for reliability, it's a minus for independence and due weight, and it contributes to the reason that this article is packed with far more irrelevant in-universe information than any other fiction genre would tolerate. It's going to need a significant pare down on content and sourcing before it's good to go for DYK. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:46, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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Medicalisation of sexuality

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• ... that as a result of the medicalisation of sexuality, sexual disorders like erectile dysfunction have been used as a "penile health gauge" to measure general wellbeing? Source: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0959353517750682
  • Second DYK after Bobby Floyd (musician), so no QPQ

Created by Darcyisverycute (talk). Nominated by Mach61 (talk) at 06:40, 24 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Medicalisation of sexuality; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• @Darcyisverycute: New enough and long enough. Nominator is QPQ-exempt. The hook fact is in article and checks out to quote. Three passages are uncited and need citations to continue this nomination:
  • Because of this broad definition of sexual health, it has been argued to include an optimistic attitude towards sexual relationships and sexuality, and human rights issues such as "the capability to have pleasant and safer sexual practices that are free of violence, coercion, and discrimination".
  • The economic success of Viagra motivated a number of similar product trials and also prompted research into female sexual pharmacotherapy.
  • Blanchard's theories were influential on the development of the DSM-3, DSM-4 and DSM-5.

While it will be hard to do so, there are a few passages (not including some long terms of art and banal phrases) that are just a little too similar to Hectors [2]. The nominator might want to look and see if anything needs changing. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:03, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

@Sammi Brie: I've resolved all the CN tags. Is any possible paraphrasing a dealbreaker? Mach61 (talk) 05:30, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 25

Zoé Clauzure, Cœur (song)

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• ... that Zoé Clauzure won the 2023 Junior Eurovision with her song "Cœur", giving France their second consecutive win in the contest?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gale–Shapley algorithm, Template:Did you know nominations/Charles J. Turck
  • Comment: I will try and come with a better hook.

Created by Moscow Connection (talk). Self-nominated at 23:00, 1 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Zoé Clauzure; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• @Moscow Connection: A QPQ is still needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:56, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

  Sorry. I'm back, and I will do it now. --Moscow Connection (talk) 22:35, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

  A QPQ is done. --Moscow Connection (talk) 01:11, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

• Moscow Connection, since this is a double nomination, you need to supply two QPQ reviews, one for each article nominated. Please supply a second nomination as soon as possible. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:40, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

  Okay. (I'll do it tomorrow. I've looked through the nominations, but couldn't find anything interesting.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 17:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

  I've reviewed one more nomination. --Moscow Connection (talk) 22:55, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

• Full review needed now that QPQs have been provided. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:12, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
• At 1382 bytes, Cœur (song) is too short for the DYK requirement. Moscow Connection, would you prefer to put the nomination on hold until it's expanded or to withdraw it and go with just the Clauzure article? --Paul_012 (talk) 15:15, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Note that the IPA template in the lede causes unexpected (incorrect) results from DYK check in the form of about 200 extra characters to its count; the "Cœur" article is indeed short of the 1500 prose characters required and will need to be expanded further. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:33, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 26

Euan Duthie, Lord Duthie

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• ... that Scottish judge Lord Duthie gave legal advice to the European Union Naval Force? Source: Who's Who: "Legal Advr, EU Naval Force, 2010".
  • ALT1: ... that Scottish judge Lord Duthie served as a Lieutenant in the Royal Naval Reserve? Source: Who's Who: "Lieut RNR".
  • Reviewed: The Rape of the Sabine Women (Poussin)
  • Comment: If the hooks are not exciting enough, there are lots of newspaper reports of the somewhat revolting cases that Duthie had to oversee when he was Sheriff - if necessary I can add one or more of those into the article and use one as a hook - for example he is said to have "blasted" one young man for attempting to incite a suicide, etc., etc.

Created by TheBishopAndHolyPrince (talk). Nominated by Storye book (talk) at 18:04, 29 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Euan Duthie, Lord Duthie; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Per WP:DYKLEN, the minimum length for an article to be eligible for DYK is 1500 characters. This article only barely scrapes by (1503 using my character counting tool). This count includes the rather substantial number of titles he's held, which accounts for a large proportion of the prose. I would appreciate, if possible, even just one more sentence about him that describes what he was doing at these positions or if anyone expressed thoughts about his performance. If not, we can proceed–the article indeed narrowly clears the bar. ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:49, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

• Thank you, Pbritti. I have added some more facts (with citation), and according to DYK Check, the article now has 2379 characters. (I had hesitated to add those facts previously, because they are so depressing). Storye book (talk) 16:48, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Storye book: Upon review, I have BLPCRIME concerns about the addition. Earwig came back good, so I say you just need to consider some other addition to the article. However, work has suddenly precluded me from further reviewing. My sincerest apologies for leaving you here. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

• There was actually nothing wrong with the addition that you are talking about, since no names were mentioned. BLPCRIME refers to individuals whose names are mentioned in the article, but my addition did not mention names. The link in the citation gives only newspaper headlines, which do not contain names. In order to find out those names, you would have to pay a subscription to get beyond the paywall - which is not our concern. However, I have replaced my edit with a general list of typical offences encountered by the sheriff. Our next reviewer will therefore have nothing to worry about. Storye book (talk) 09:11, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

The Best Sleepover in the World

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• ... that Jacqueline Wilson wrote a sequel to her 2001 novel Sleepovers called The Best Sleepover in the World? Source:
  • ALT1: ... that Jacqueline Wilson wrote The Best Sleepover in the World after realising how popular its prequel was? Source:
  • ALT2: ... that The Best Sleepover in the World includes the communication tool Makaton in it? Source:
  • ALT3: ... that The Best Sleepover in the World was dedicated by Jacqueline Wilson to a mother and daughter pair that helped her learn Makaton through their YouTube videos? Source:
  • ALT4: ... that four libraries in Hampshire held big sleepovers for 250 Brownies to celebrate the release of The Best Sleepover in the World? Source:
  • ALT5: ... that Jacqueline Wilson updated the characterisation of Lily in The Best Sleepover in the World to reflect the modern times? Source:
  • ALT6: ... that when writing The Best Sleepover in the World, Jacqueline Wilson worked with Disability Rights UK? Source:
  • ALT7: ... that Jacqueline Wilson included a TikTok influencer in The Best Sleepover in the World in order the reflect the updated time setting? Source:
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I was struggling a bit with phrasing these, so please feel free to ask me any questions etc :)

Moved to mainspace by DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk). Self-nominated at 02:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The Best Sleepover in the World; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Comment: @DaniloDaysOfOurLives: Which two hooks are your preferred favorites? If you have more than two, let me know. Just trying to narrow this down. Viriditas (talk) 18:37, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

• I will share my thoughts: I would say ALT0, ALT1, ALT5, ALT7 are not very interesting and should probably be stricken. Just my opinion, so don't take it seriously. ALT4 made me laugh and might be something to think about going with as it is unusual and interesting. In addition to ALT4, I prefer ALT2, ALT3, and ALT6; those are my four favorites, but I wonder if the wording could be improved or if you like it the way it is. Viriditas (talk) 19:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
• Fixed an error.[3] Viriditas (talk) 20:52, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
• Minor copyedits.[4] I like your prose and writing style, but you've got way too many quotes, some of which can easily be paraphrased. I've noticed that this could be a problem for DYK, so I recommend selectively choosing to paraphrase the majority of your quotes. Viriditas (talk) 21:00, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

• Review: Way too many quotes, particularly in areas where you don't need to quote. Looking at the article, I think you can easily paraphrase at least 50% of the quotes, most of which are only one or two words (and leave the longer ones) which would be an improvement. Article is new enough and long enough. I prefer the hooks, ALT2, ALT3, ALT4, and ALT6. The rest should be struck, IMO. Viriditas (talk) 21:25, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

• @DaniloDaysOfOurLives: I see you haven't made many edits towards this end. Can I offer my help with paraphrasing the quotes in the article? Viriditas (talk) 00:48, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Hey, I am sorry for the lateness. I am currently unwell with impetigo and thus I have not been able to do as much usual editing and that is why I did not reply to this right away. I did some minor changes yesterday, but today I tried cutting down the number of quotes a lot. I have managed to cut down the number of quotes - the thing that I have struggled with is that I am trying to be very careful to not wrongly assume or misrepresent what the quote is saying, so please let me know if I have by accident. Many of the cut quotes I did not initially consider part of the quote count - many were to represent the sources (e.g. saying "her "subtle" messages"", as I was worried it would seem that the article is not abiding to Neutral POV. Thank you so much for your support, genuinely. I think ALT3 and 6 are best, now that I think about it. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 07:35, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

No worries. It might help to cross out all the other hooks and highlight just ALT3 and ALT6 so we can move this along. Viriditas (talk) 20:39, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Done! DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 20:45, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@DaniloDaysOfOurLives: While this isn't necessary or required, I recommend rewriting ALT3 and ALT6 (create new ALT7 and ALT8 hooks) to place the linked article first. In ALT3, the article appears as the second link, and in ALT6 it appears as the third link. While this is acceptable, the first links will inevitably steal views from your nomination, meaning less people will read this article. Something to consider. Viriditas (talk) 23:54, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so so much for this! I reworderd them both to put the link first, but I am unsure if the meaning now sounds unclear for ALT6... DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 06:31, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for continuing to try to improve this article. Looking at the reception section, I still think you can easily paraphrase many of these quotes. My approach is to reserve quotes for when you really can't paraphrase and it's important to get the authorial intent and meaning across. This is not the case here. You should be able to paraphrase most of this. Please give it a try. Viriditas (talk) 08:18, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

@DaniloDaysOfOurLives: Thank you for trying to paraphrase the reception section and other parts of the article. While I really appreciate what you are trying to do, it might be best to revert back to the previous version, because the attempt to paraphrase didn't work, and the changes ride the line of plagiarism. It may help for you to read our article on paraphrase, or to do a search on "how to paraphrase". I am very sorry about this. Viriditas (talk) 20:21, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

@Viriditas: This is a quick reply as I'm about to head to bed but I will try again tomorrow/Tuesday after my classes finish – I'm sorry for the stress. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 04:43, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

That's fine, but many of your earlier attempts to paraphrase are still in the article and are also problematic, so I'm going to make an attempt to fix those earlier attempts. Viriditas (talk) 02:05, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

@DaniloDaysOfOurLives: The problem at hand is pretty bad. I don't want to reject this nomination, but the paraphrasing didn't work, and your earlier attempts at writing the article also have the same problems where you use the same language from the sources, sometimes with quotes, sometimes without. I think the article is short enough for you to go through it, one section at a time, and completely rewrite it. You could have this done in a matter of days. Leave the lead section for last. If you don't see the problem, I can provide many examples. Look at "Release and promotion". You write "Steve Forster, Hampshire County Council's executive member for education, expressed delight that the events took place due to believing that they would help foster a lifetime love of reading and books". That's the same or similar wording from the sources. I think most reviewers would reject at this point, but I really don't want to do that. I'm hoping you can find time to step up and give it a rewrite. I understand if you are busy with school or work and don't have the time to rewrite it, but right now, it is not close to passing in this state. Viriditas (talk) 02:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

@DaniloDaysOfOurLives: Let me know if you are going to address this soon. If you can't, I will reject it. You can try to bring it to GAN to give it a second chance. Viriditas (talk) 19:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

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Articles created/expanded on December 27

Panos Katseris

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• ... that in December 2022, Panos Katseris scored his first goal for Italian club Catanzaro at less than one minute since the kick-off of the game? Source: Translated and re-adapted from La Gazzetta dello Sport: "The score [was] opened after less than a minute by [Panos] Katseris (the sixteenth member of the [Catanzaro] squad to find the net) [...]"
  • ALT1: ... that in December 2022, Panos Katseris scored his first goal for Italian club Catanzaro less than a minute after the kick-off of the game? Source: Translated and re-adapted from La Gazzetta dello Sport: "The score [was] opened after less than a minute by [Panos] Katseris (the sixteenth member of the [Catanzaro] squad to find the net) [...]"
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ryokuoushoku Shakai
  • Comment: I've given RoboCric co-credits as a way to thank him for accepting my draft; on a side note, I'm hoping to get my own QPQ review over the line as soon as possible!

Moved to mainspace by Oltrepier (talk) and RoboCric (talk). Nominated by Oltrepier (talk) at 16:19, 1 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Panos Katseris; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• A grammar suggestion for the hook.

• ALT1: ... that in December 2022, Panos Katseris scored his first goal for Italian club Catanzaro less than a minute after the kick-off of the game?

Does that sound okay, Oltrepier, RoboCric? Silverseren^C 16:50, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

@Silver seren: Yes, absolutely! Thank you for spotting those mistakes! : ) Oltrepier (talk) 16:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

I've moved it up to your nomination section. Silverseren^C 17:06, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Wakan, Oman

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• ... that the mild climate in the remote mountain village of Wakan in Oman allows the growth of fruits such as pomegranates and apricots? Source: [5]
  • ALT1: ... that between February and March tourists visit the remote village of Wakan in Oman for its apricot blossoms? Source: [6]
  • Reviewed: QPQ not required

Created by Broc (talk). Self-nominated at 09:16, 28 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Wakan, Oman; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Article is new enough, created on 27 Dec. It is long enough with around 1999 characters including spaces. Article seems in general well sourced and is neutral in style. Article is presentable. One sentence seemed to be copied from a site, but that might a copy from Wikipedia itself. The sentence however does not end with citations. I advise having a look at that sentence again: " It lies on the slopes of the Wadi Mistal mountains at an altitude of approximately 1500 m a.s.l.[3][4][5] in the Western Hajar Mountains, 140 km from Muscat and 56 km from Nakhal." No other issues found. The hook is cited to what seems to be a government source, which seems okay for the information in the hook. The source referred to is different than the one mentioned in this template though. Source number 4 might also provide some more information to improve the citation or expand on content. In its current state I find both the hook and the ALT only marginally interesting, but they could suffice. No QPQ needed. Crispulop (talk) 20:31, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
  • One more suggestion for a hook:
    • ALT2: ... that the Titan of the Hill was in Wakan? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crispulop (talk • contribs) 20:34, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

@Crispulop: thanks for the review. A few notes from my side:

• The hook is cited to Times of Oman, a large English-language newspaper in Oman, not a government source.
• Which sentence seems to be copied? I checked again with EarWig and there doesn't seem to be an issue.
• While you mention the hook is only mildly interesting, I find it quite amazing that in Oman, a hot desertic country, there are places such as Wakan where Mediterranean fruits are grown. Maybe the hook should be better phrased?

Broc (talk) 14:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Lucy Tun, Nieve Ella, Hannah Grae

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• Nieve Ella
• Hannah Grae

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• ... that Lucy Tun, Nieve Ella, Hannah Grae, Caity Baser, Venbee, and Charlotte Plank all made Dork's 2024 Hype List? Source: https://readdork.com/news/dork-hype-list-2024-live-gretel-hanlyn-100-club/
  • ALT1: ... that after being namechecked in Lucy Tun's "Kulture Klub", Bella Hadid shouted out the single on TikTok? Source: https://www.clashmusic.com/news/lucy-tuns-kulture-klub-is-a-wry-relatable-look-at-the-fashion-world/
  • ALT2: ... that the British musician Nieve Ella has a hair salon named after her? Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-65723941
  • ALT3: ... that the British rock musician Hannah Grae went viral online with an anti-sexual harassment parody of Aqua's "Barbie Girl"? Source: https://readdork.com/features/hannah-grae-the-cut-cover-august-2023/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Vocalises (Ivanovs), Template:Did you know nominations/Gamze Durmuş, Template:Did you know nominations/31 October 2023 attack on Jabalia
  • Comment: The link between the six musicians in ALT0 is that they are all in Loud LDN, although I would not be able to include that fact on the front page as I am relying on Loud LDN's website for Ella and Grae being in there. Additionally, there is a Creative Commons image of Nieve Ella's hair salon at Geograph.org.uk that could be used for ALT2.

Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 02:34, 27 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lucy Tun; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• For now I am reviewing only Ella and Grae as I do not feel that Tun's individual hook, nor the multi-article hook, are sufficiently interesting to non-specialist audiences. I am noting that three QPQs have been provided, one for each article.

Nieve Ella

The article is new enough and long enough. It is adequately sourced and free from close paraphrasing. I have verified the hook in the source and it is cited inline; although the salon in question was run by her mother, the hook still works especially with the context removed.

Hannah Grae

The article is also newenough and long enough. It is adequately sourced and free from close paraphrasing. I have verified the hook in the source and it is cited inline, and the hook is interesting to a broad audience.

Overall

Ella and Grae are good to go, but I would like to see a new hook for Tun as it seems too specialist to me and isn't as interesting if the reader is unfamiliar with the name of the artist that is mentioned there. Per my comment above I have struck the multihook as lacking sufficient interest to broad audiences. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:23, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Nieve-Ella's Hair & Beauty

I'm going to do a little bit more work on Tun's article I think. In the meantime, I've added both an image of Ella and her salon to the article, and I'd like to submit the salon image with the nom.--Launchballer 12:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

It's irritating that Redlightmanagement.com probably isn't reliable, as "that Lucy Tun's inspirations include death metal and RuPaul's Drag Race" could work. I propose:

ALT4: ... that in September 2023, the British musician Lucy Tun co-organised a series of writing camps for East and South East Asian Heritage Month?--Launchballer 14:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

I'd say that her agency profile should be okay for noncontentious information, including even hooks. Basically, as long as there's information that they probably didn't make up and isn't something that is likely to be challenged, that source should be okay for certain information. So if you want, you can go ahead with the death metal/Drag Race hook as long as you include Tun's genre to make the contrast more visible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:01, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

ALT5: ... that the alt-pop musician Lucy Tun cites death metal and RuPaul's Drag Race as influences?--Launchballer 11:48, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

That sounds okay. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• I've given this some thought, and while I think ALT5 is okay, I'm not 100% sure if it's interesting to a broad audience, so I'd like a second opinion for Lucy Tun only. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:03, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
• ALT6: ... that Lucy Tun's ADHD inspired Lucy Tun's "ADHD"?--Launchballer 09:50, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: Is this ready to be approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 16:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Grae and Ella were previously approved, so could roll now. If ALTs 5 and 6 are not interesting, I'll look for something else.--Launchballer 21:05, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 29

Lobster-eye optics

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Close-up view of crustacean's eyes

• ... that lobster-eye optics (crustacean eye pictured) will be used in several planned X-ray space telescopes? Source: multiple, see article
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lunar Surface Gravimeter

Created by Artem.G (talk). Self-nominated at 12:56, 5 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lobster-eye optics; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Comment: Grammar issues in article; copyedits needed. Also, history section doesn't mention Kaaret & Geissbuehler 1992, but that has no bearing on DYK. ALT0 is redundant to me. In English, saying "lobster-eye optics" implies that it "mimic[s] the structure of lobsters' eyes". So why not just say ... that lobster-eye optics will be used in several planned X-ray space telescopes? Viriditas (talk) 22:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Hey, thanks for the review! Kaaret & Geissbuehler added. I've copyedited the article a bit, but would be grateful if you'll list the issues you see. And you're right, the hook can be trimmed, thanks! Artem.G (talk) 08:02, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

• It was proposed in 1979, and first used in the Chinese technology demonstrator spacecraft Lobster Eye Imager for Astronomy Do people really use the full term "technology demonstrator"? This sounds like a Wikipedia term. I've only heard "tech demo" and "prototype", but it may just be the case that this is a new term for me. I've never seen it used in reference to a new telescope. Don't they usually just call it a prototype telescope, or is there a major difference with a "technology demonstrator" spacecraft? Something about the full term doesn't sound right to me. Viriditas (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

One of the sources say "SATech-01 is an exploration satellite aimed at test and demonstration of the new technologies", I think that 'technology demonstrator' is the same thing but shorter. Artem.G (talk) 21:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps to you, but I'm not seeing any currency for that usage. I would suggest going with what most sources use and not choosing new and unusual terms. "Technology demonstrator" reads very odd to me, and I don't recall ever seeing it in the literature like this. Viriditas (talk) 21:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Well, I disagree - it's a common term. See for example [7] A technology demonstrator for development of ultra-lightweight, large aperture, deployable telescope for space applications, ESA The camera has been designed as a technology demonstrator, or [8] The Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope Coronagraph Instrument is a critical technology demonstrator for NASA's Habitable Worlds Observatory.. Artem.G (talk) 11:22, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

TIL. Viriditas (talk) 19:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

• First major space telescope that uses lobster-eye optics is Chinese Einstein Probe, launched in 2024. That sentence is too informal and needs to be cleaned up. Viriditas (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't understand that. What's informal here that should be changed? EP is the first space telescope with LE Thag is not a prototype, so the sentence is correct. Artem.G (talk) 21:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

It reads like broken English to me, or informal discourse. If I was to formalize it for Wikipedia, I might write "The Chinese Einstein Probe is the first major space telescope to use lobster-eye optics." Viriditas (talk) 21:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, will use it! Artem.G (talk) 11:22, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

• Lobster-eye optics mimic the structure of the crustacean's (lobster's) eyes, that are made up of long, narrow cells that each reflect a tiny amount of light from a given direction This should be rewritten. Maybe something like: "The eyes of a crustacean are made up of long, narrow cells that each reflect a tiny amount of light from a given direction. Lobster-eye optics technology mimic this structure..." Viriditas (talk)

• Done as you've proposed, thanks. Artem.G (talk) 13:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• idealized LE optic is almost free from vignetting except near the edge of the FoV Do you mean field of view? You'll need to spell things out for the general reader. Viriditas (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

@Artem.G: That's just to start, but there's a lot more. I can try to take a closer look later, but I would really recommend getting an editor who specializes in copy editing to also take a look. Viriditas (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, will try GOCE. Artem.G (talk) 21:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

• • Query: why is the picture one of a shrimp's eyes when the article is about the optics of lobster's eyes? This doesn't seem to be an appropriate picture to run for this DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:09, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
    • It's called "lobster-eye", but any crustacean eye works for the illustration. I've added "crustacean" to the article. Artem.G (talk)

• I agree, but you may want to construct a footnote in the article explaining this anatomical similarity. People will easily get confused and this will just come up again. Viriditas (talk) 19:47, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

• Several space telescopes that use lobster-eye optics are under construction. Joint French-Chinese SVOM is expected to be launched in July 2024. SMILE, a space telescope project by ESA and the CAS, is planned to be launched in 2025. ESA's THESEUS is now under consideration. This is all unsourced. Viriditas (talk) 20:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

• Thanks for adding sources. Viriditas (talk) 20:19, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

• @Artem.G: Regarding the similarity of shared content between Lobster Eye Imager for Astronomy and this article, which you noted in the original edit,[9] please keep in mind the WP:DYKSPLIT rule. Viriditas (talk) 20:39, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

• Just had another user check this out. This nomination meets and exceeds the requirements. Viriditas (talk) 00:56, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Hey, I missed the reply somehow, sorry for that. I didn't know about this rule, but the text I've copied from LEIA was added there by me just a few days before. Anyway, I wouldn't object if you'll fail this nomination. If not, I'll try to address all remaining comments in the next few days. Artem.G (talk) 07:39, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• I'm not failing this nomination. I said it meets and exceeds the criteria. I had to be sure, so I asked for additional input. There are a lot of rules and it's difficult to be mindful of them at all times, so I will often ask for help. Also, I very much want to see that cool image of crustacean eyes on the main page, so please, let's fix this article and get it ready. Viriditas (talk) 09:04, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Nice, thanks! I've very little time this week, but I've copyedited the article a bit, and removed ambiguity about the photo (or so I hope). Artem.G (talk) 13:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

@Artem.G: I know you are busy, but I made some copyedits you should review.[10] I also think the large blockquote in the history section should either be paraphrased by you or cut down to its most important part. Viriditas (talk) 02:24, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. That looks good. Viriditas (talk) 09:28, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the copyedit, everything looks good! I never saw 'biomimetics' used for LE before, but I found several articles that uses it. Artem.G (talk) 18:45, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

@Artem.G:, do you have access to the 2018 book Remote and Robotic Investigations of the Solar System by Christopher R. Kitchin?[11] You can find copies online or in your local library. I think this source would resolve 99% of any outstanding issues as it explains the entire concept in easy to understand, everyday language and compares it to other similar technology, giving it proper context and coverage. This would greatly help our readers understand the subject. I think if you were to use this source to revise what you currently have, we could probably wrap this up and pass the hook. Please take a look when you have time. Viriditas (talk) 19:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

thanks, will look into it tomorrow! Artem.G (talk) 21:02, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

@Artem.G: It's mostly on pp. 122-123, but there's a bit more on p. 128 regarding honeycomb collimaters. The content is fairly small, so I could email it to you, but the book itself does have some nice diagrams and graphics. Viriditas (talk) 19:34, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Dora and the Fantastical Creatures

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• ... that the animation in the short film Dora and the Fantastical Creatures was inspired by by Mexican folk art and alebrijes? Source: https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/features/1350971-dora-and-the-fantastical-creatures-interview-director-william-mata-on-reimagining-the-iconic-character
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5x expanded by Zingo156 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:05, 29 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Dora and the Fantastical Creatures; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• This is my first time reviewing a DYK nomination, so I would like a second opinion on this.
  • According to DYKcheck, you started 5x expanding on December 28, 2023. You nominated the article for DYK the day after, so it passes newness in this case.
  • Article is long enough (4601 characters).
  • The current hook you have proposed (ALT0) is not really interesting. I'd recommend that you come up with a new one.
  • The article needs some work, especially in the "Reception" section. It uses the "X said Y" format, which is discouraged. See this essay for ideas.
  • Earwig detected quotes used in the article that are properly cited to their sources.

Davest3r08 >:) ^(talk) 15:55, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Zingo156 have you seen the above? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Davest3r08 AirshipJungleman29 apologies for not answering speedily. Yeah, I will address the articles problems before the end of January. Zingo156 (talk) 07:41, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

@Zingo156: Have the issues been resolved, and thus this is ready for a review? If issues are not resolved soon, this nomination might be closed as unsuccessful. Z1720 (talk) 16:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

@Z1720: Yeah I just attended to them. Sorry for the wait. Zingo156 (talk) 15:21, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 30

Madeleine Steere

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• ... that Australian water polo player Madeleine Steere was selected in the "2018 All-American team" in her second college year? Source: "In 2017 Steere joined the University of Michigan and in her two seasons with the side has gained recognition of her skills through selection in the 2018 All-American team." [12]
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Misfat Al Abriyeen

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 05:50, 6 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Madeleine Steere; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Nice work on this article! I only have a couple small issues that need addressing before I can pass this: the lead section is too short, it should really be expanded given the amount of information in the text of the article; and the first "a" in the "australia women's" section should be capitalised. Grnrchst (talk) 12:35, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Grnrchst: Thank you for your review. The said issues are addressed. Please check. CeeGee 09:36, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

• Thanks for seeing to it! I still think the lead could be a bit longer, but am happy to pass this review the now. Nice work :) --Grnrchst (talk) 09:39, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

• Thank you for approving. You are free to expand the lede. CeeGee 06:59, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

• RoySmith I'm not familiar with American college sports: is this an interesting hook ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

• It's not interesting to me, but I don't know anything about college sports either. Why is "2018 All-American team" in scare quotes? What in particular makes this interesting? They have an all-american team every year. What makes this person being selected to it special? Grammar nit: shouldn't it be "selected for" instead of "selected in"?

• CeeGee I don't think this hook meets the interestingness criterion. Is it possible for you to find a better one? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:45, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
• I have also tagged it as needing copyediting; there are numerous odd errors ("She capped in 67 international matches", "She enjoyed her team's champions title", etc.). ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:47, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

• Copyedited accordingly. I can not locate "etc." Thanks for your check. CeeGee 06:40, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

• ... you haven't. "she capped in" --> "she cappeared" is not an improvement. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:45, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

• @AirshipJungleman29: Ooh! Sorry, I missed it. Thank you again for your attention. I corrected it now. Check please. CeeGee 08:16, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

• You have not. CeeGee, it might be good for you to nominate this article at WP:GOCE. In any case, you have not provided a new hook; unless you propose a new one which meets the criteria, this nomination will be rejected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:02, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

• I've just requested copyediting by the Guild of Copy Editors. Below is another hook for review:CeeGee 10:06, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that Australian water polo player Madeleine Steere moved to Turkey, and helped her team's winning the 2023–24 European Challenger Cup? Source:[13] [14] CeeGee 10:06, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
  • I'd support alt1 as a hook. I think this is more interesting than the initial proposal. @AirshipJungleman29: Thoughts? --Grnrchst (talk) 12:24, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 31

Angie Appleton

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• ... that Coronation Street was praised for raising awareness of postnatal depression through the character of Angie Appleton? Source: Manchester Evening News
  • ALT1: ... that Victoria Ekanoye portrayed Angie Appleton in Coronation Street at the same time that she was filming for The Royals? Source: Radio Times
  • ALT2: ... that Victoria Ekanoye grew up watching Coronation Street before being cast as Angie Appleton in it? Source: Radio Times
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  • Comment: I hope the sourcing is okay, I used to do it fully sourced on the nomination page but I have been advised not to do so anymore. Please let me know if these hooks are not okay and I will try to think of more. I had a great one regarding Ekanoye fearing that fans would hate Angie, but the source is offline (as it is a magazine), so I was not not sure if it was allowed. Please let me know if there any questions!

Created by DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk). Self-nominated at 00:21, 4 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Angie Appleton; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: This was a fun article to review, not what I expected and I think that's what makes this a good DYK. The copyvio tool flagged this article a couple times but after checking all the copyvio flags were for quotes which were handled correctly. Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:26, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

@DaniloDaysOfOurLives: the same issues outlined by theleekycauldron at Template:Did you know nominations/Lacey Lloyd apply here. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

I haven't replied to the other DYK yet as I am unwell, but I honestly do not see what the issue is with this article. There are reliable sources not only from Digital Spy, Radio Times, What to Watch and Inside Soap, but also sources from Female First, Manchester Evening News, Woman's Own, Liverpool Echo, OK! and other completely non-TV related news outlets. There is information that talks about the character's storylines, yes, but this is essential in order to explain the out of universe infob– for example, Angie's feud with Mary links to the reception that was received from viewers and links to how the soap was praised for depicting post-natal depression, and it also affects her characterisation; the marital problems section also links to how viewers wanted to see Angie with another man and also leads to the character's departure; the introduction section shows how Angie's character changed the dynamics of other characters and storylines; Angie accusing Mary of hurting her son showed how fans had been making fan theories about the storyline and showed how the actress was worried about receiving hate from the role, and so on. Plus, nearly all of the information is accompanied by the actor's thoughts on the stoylines and development of the character. So yes, there is sourced information about the storylines, but this is needed in order to properly talk about the out of universe info. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 15:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)#

The issue is that there is excessive detail on the in-universe information @DaniloDaysOfOurLives:. Take the "Feud with Mary and postpartum depression" section—there are over 900 words of plot details, which according to you are all essential to explain the 200 words of out-of-universe information? Not even a third of them are "essential"; most of them could easily be cut without compromising the article's intelligibility or comprehensiveness.

WP:WAF, which requires that the prose length "be carefully balanced with the length of the other sections, as well as the length of the story itself" is a guideline, and thus not optional. Also remember WP:NOTEVERYTHING, which is policy: Information should not be included in this encyclopedia solely because it is true or useful. A Wikipedia article should not be a complete exposition of all possible details, but a summary of accepted knowledge regarding its subject.. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Turno (musician)

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• ... that prior to entering the UK Singles Chart with his Skepsis and Charlotte Plank collaboration "Rave Out", Turno had appeared in a We Are England documentary about male suicide? Source: several
  • ALT1: ... that the British musician Turno released a clothing range in October 2016? Source: https://breakbeat.co.uk/interviews/turno-knowledge-transfer/
  • ALT2: ... that the British musician Skepsis began producing music after his school's music department won a grant from his country's government? Source: https://www.musicradar.com/news/the-breakdown-skepsis-1
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Can't Catch Me Now

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 14:40, 31 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Turno (musician); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Sunehri Bagh Masjid

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• ... that Sunehri Bagh mosque in New Delhi has been recommended to be demolished for resolving traffic problems? Source: The Indian Express, elsewhere sourced in article
  • Reviewed: East African Mounted Rifles
  • Comment: A very interesting hook in my opinion, and the topic is well in news these days.

Created by TheAafi (talk). Self-nominated at 11:24, 31 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sunehri Bagh Masjid; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Not a review, and I review oldest first so I probably wouldn't touch this for at least another month and a half (but would not object to any other editor doing so in the interim): The Times of India is not a reliable source.--Launchballer 14:44, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
  • Launchballer Thanks for the note. Times of India is not the only source to support the fact. I have changed it on this nomination to The Indian Express, which is considered reliable. I will rework on the article and try removing TOI resources although the two sources are unlikely to fall under what is considered "unreliable/biased" on this publication, but I take your note. ─ The Aafī (talk) 14:56, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
    • In my opinion, WP:CONTEXTMATTERS should apply with regards to the reliability of TOI for the part of content sourced from there. ─ The Aafī (talk) 15:01, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

The context is that the hook should be cited to a reliable source. Full review needed.--Launchballer 09:47, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Launchballer, The hook is of-course cited to reliable source. See WP:INDIANEXP and also WP:THEHINDU. I had added the link to Indian Express piece this nomination, and in the article the fact is also supported by a TheHindu piece. Best regards, ─ The Aafī (talk) 13:14, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

My apologies, that should have said 'which it now is'. Full review still needed.--Launchballer 16:38, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 1

Gallery (New Orleans)

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Iron galleries in New Orleans

• ... that in New Orleans, galleries (sample pictured) differ from balconies in that galleries are wider and have supporting posts? Source: https://nola.gov/nola/media/HDLC/Guidelines/09-Porches-Galleries.pdf
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Holly Ringland

Created by Z22 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:38, 8 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gallery (New Orleans); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - The linked document does not explicitly state that galleries are wider than balconies at the stated page number.
• Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Need some source clarification. SounderBruce 02:17, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

The source does not explicitly say they are wider but it says the widths cover the entire sidewalk in comparison to 3-4 feet for balconies. If we should not imply by using general knowledge that sidewalk is 4+ feet, then we can have another hook like:

ALT1: ... that in New Orleans, galleries (example pictured) differ from balconies in that galleries extend over the sidewalks and have supporting posts?

Or something else that you may want to suggest. Z22 (talk) 05:29, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

The new hook is clunky and has an unnecessary repeat of the word "gallery". Upon a second look at the article, there's quite a bit of copyediting that is needed; passages like "the fashion had moved on with the time to catch up with the modern architecture" are really hard to parse. SounderBruce 05:03, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Is it easier to read just to say something like these instead?

ALT2a: ... that in New Orleans, galleries (example pictured), unlike balconies, feature supporting posts?

ALT2b: ... that in New Orleans, galleries (example pictured) distinguish themselves from balconies through the addition of supporting posts?

ALT2c: ... that in New Orleans, galleries (example pictured) differ from balconies because they feature supporting posts?

Or you are thinking that we need something completely different? Any suggestions are appreciated. Z22 (talk) 02:07, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

BTW, I had some edits to improve readability. Let me know if you still spot the parts that require more work. Thanks. Z22 (talk) 03:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Robbery Bob

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• ... that Robbery Bob, Angry Birds, and Cut the Rope were published by the same company? Source: [15]: "Ever since striking gold with games like Angry Birds and Cut The Rope, Chillingo has been rapidly firing out cutesy physics-based iOS puzzlers in hopes of once again finding App Store glory."
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  • Comment: This is my third DYK nomination. This one is for the 2024 WikiCup.

Created by TrademarkedTWOrantula (talk). Self-nominated at 07:37, 2 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Robbery Bob; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• @TrademarkedTWOrantula: New enough, long enough and nominated on time. I spot checked references and found that they line up. The references are just ok, but many references for video games appear to be of similar quality. There is a fair use image in the article and the article is in MOS:ORDER.

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1. The hook is not in the article. There is no Angry Birds or Cut the Rope in the article. We will need to either add that information with the citation or come up with a new hook which is based in the real world WP:DYKFICTION.
2. The Release section is just a few words and looks orphaned - can you combine it elsewhere?
3. The sequel section is also too short to have a section - can you combine it elsewhere?

Combined sections. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 04:40, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Just spitballing a hook idea.

• ALT1: ... that AJ Dellinger of Gamezebo thought the dialogue in Robbery Bob was "cringeworthy"? "pretty cheesy at times, and there are moments of cringeworthy dialogue." Bruxton (talk) 02:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

I like this hook, but I'd quote the word "cringeworthy". TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 04:40, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@TrademarkedTWOrantula: Added the quotation marks. going forward others will also make decisions about the hook punctuation. We need another reviewer now, hopefully one will come along to approve the hook both you and I approved. I hope you stick around and continue to contribute to DYK. Bruxton (talk) 05:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Lewis Pragasam

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• ... that Malaysian percussionist Lewis Pragasam organized the country's first jazz rock concert at the University of Malaya in 1977? Source: https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/leisure/2023/12/19/little-drummer-boy-who-became-music-genius/
  • ALT1: ... that Malaysian percussionist Lewis Pragasam was drumming to "Joy to the World" at a Christmas concert before suffering a heart failure? Source: https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/leisure/2023/12/19/little-drummer-boy-who-became-music-genius/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Michael Kremer

Created by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 19:14, 1 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lewis Pragasam; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• General eligibility:
• New enough:
• Long enough: - I know the article is technically long enough but it would be great to see if we can get it a little bit bigger before it goes to DYK.

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - [16] [17] - these appear to be a blog and would not be reliable. The discography is sourced to WP:ALLMUSIC and WP:DISCOGS which are user generated and not suitable.
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I'd like to see the sourcing issues looked at and also to see if we can expand the article a little bit before I approve. It's a great topic and article so far just needs these issues looking at. Vladimir.copic (talk) 04:08, 16 January 2024 (UTC) Thanks for the review. My notes below.

Re: Source 1 -- This does appear as wordpress, but, this is an online mirror of the offline magazine Bandwidth Street Press December 2009 issue. I can remove the wordpress link and leave this one as an offline source. But, leaving this wordpress link adds some more to anyone wanting to read the article because Bandwidth Street Press issues are no longer available online.

Re: Source 2 -- Let me do some search for alternate sources. Stay tuned.

Re: Discography -- are both Allmusic and Discogs not permitted? If so, I will do some search for alternate sources. Let me know.

Re: the length of the article, I think what we have now is alright. All information that I could find has been added.

I will follow up regarding the sources. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 04:19, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

@Vladimir.copic: Source #2 has been replaced in the article. Re: Discogs and Allmusic, those have been removed. I am planning to replace them by this link from Last.fm. Per this Rfc Last.fm is unreliable for biographies and for genres. However, I am linking to direct audio track listing. So, I believe this should be fine. However, if you disagree, I can look for alternate sources. Let me know. With this, I am passing this back to you. Ktin (talk) 04:50, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I don't think we can use the sources you have included for the discography. We can be pretty loose with the sourcing for lists of works but that seems a bit too loose. I've tried to do a search myself for sources and if you use the Internet Archive and Google Books you can likely find individual sources for each album. Also, I think you need to give more information in the "Other acts" section like who these acts were. Vladimir.copic (talk) 11:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

@Vladimir.copic: -- please can you be specific? Which of the links can not be used for discography? Thanks. Ktin (talk) 01:45, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm referring to Deezer, Apple Music and Spotify. I would not consider these reliable. See this discussion which I think shows some kind of consensus for Spotify at least not being reliable. Vladimir.copic (talk) 04:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

@Valdimir.copic: I think you are misconstruing artist bios and album / track listings. These are two different things. I understand and agree that artist bios are contentious to be read from Spotify. I do not believe we are doing that here. Ktin (talk) 04:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Valdimir.copic: I gave this a lot of thought over the last few days. I have now reintroduced the link to the actual albums on Last.fm. I am convinced that the RfC that you referenced is specifically for biographies and artist information that is UGC on the site. My question here Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Sourcing_Discography did not yield anything different. The link that I have used for discography on the article is an actual link to a webplayer with the albums and songs (where you can actually click and listen to the albums). Unless you find that those albums are UGC or point to a discussion that says that the albums that are posted on Last.fm are UGC, I would want to go with this. Also, it is alright for us to disagree. If you do not feel comfortable proceeding with the review, we can ask for an alternate reviewer. Good day. Ktin (talk) 15:51, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

It looks like we've reached an impasse. I am not comfortable with the sourcing of the Discography section. Please see this discussion regarding the use of LastFM, Spotify, Apple Music and Deezer. I'm seeking another reviewer to look at this. Other than the discography the article is great, and, this disagreement aside, the nominator has done a good job. Vladimir.copic (talk) 02:44, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Vladimir.copic: I truly appreciate it. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 04:26, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Checking to see if any other reviewer is available to pick this up. Ktin (talk) 18:33, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 2

Catodontherium

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• ... that Catodontherium had a prior genus name that was mistakenly thought to have been used before and therefore was replaced? Source: Classification of Mammals: Above the Species Level, pg. 406 ("'Proposed on the grounds that Catodus is preoccupied by Catodon Linnaeus, 1761. This is not preoccupation, but Catodus was a numen nudum in its earlier publication (1905) so that Catodontherium may be retained' (Simpson, 1945:147)"
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Created by PrimalMustelid (talk). Self-nominated at 16:16, 2 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Catodontherium; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Starting Review--Kevmin § 15:33, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
• Article new enough and long enough, though a bit dense for a lay reader at times. no copyvio issues identified and hook source verified. I think we should maybe look at wordmithing of the hook itself so it flows a little better and is a little more concise.--Kevmin § 17:59, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Sure, how do you suggest I reword the hook? PrimalMustelid (talk) 20:26, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
    • Apologies for the delays in responding. We could go with something along the lines of:
    • Alt1... that due to a misunderstanding, Catodontherium was moved from its original genus name?
    • --Kevmin § 20:42, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
      • Yeah, that sounds good. PrimalMustelid (talk) 04:29, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Okay, we will need another set of eyes to give a verification that the new hook I proposed is acceptable then, The article overall is ready for passing, as it has no copyvio issues. is new enough and long enough, and does not have any notable rules issues.--Kevmin § 18:35, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Asakusa Culture Tourist Information Center

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Asakusa Culture Tourist Information Center in 2016

• ... that the architect of the Asakusa Culture Tourist Information Center (pictured) thought of stacked nagaya houses while designing it? Source: https://www.interactiongreen.com/asakusa-cultural-tourism-center-kengo-kuma/
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: QPQ is unneeded as this is only my third nom.

Created by DarkNight0917 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Asakusa Culture Tourist Information Center; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Articles created/expanded on January 3

Rana Reider

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• ... that Rana Reider has produced an Olympic gold medalist in five different events? Source:
  • ALT1: "... that Rana Reider has trained athletes who won an Olympic gold medal in five different events?"
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Homecoming (photograph)
  • Comment: They are 200 metres, 4 × 100 metres relay, Long jump, Triple jump and Decathlon. If I add them to the hook, it may get too wordy. I'm open to suggestions on rewording the hook to include them.

Created by Imcdc (talk). Self-nominated at 14:05, 3 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Rana Reider; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

References

• I spotted a clear typo or two, and there are some minor grammar things to fix in several places in the article. Otherwise, new enough, long enough, no copyright issues, good referencing, POV is fine I think, QPQ done. Another thing, for the hook can we reword it to "... that Rana Reider has trained athletes who won an Olympic gold medal in five different events?" Clearer I think. toobigtokale (talk) 21:17, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
  • @Toobigtokale: Agreed. I have added ALT1 and believe we should go with that. I have also reworded some of the article to make it clearer and hopefully clear the typos/grammar issues. - Imcdc Contact 02:29, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 4

Sumner Z. Kaplan

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Portrait of Sumner Z. Kaplan

• ... that Sumner Z. Kaplan (pictured) was succeeded by Michael Dukakis in the Massachusetts House of Representatives? Source: http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/obituaries/articles/2011/04/03/sumner_kaplan_91_state_legislator_judge_selectman/
  • ALT1: ... that Rabbi Sumner Z. Kaplan (pictured) officiated the wedding of Richard N. Goodwin? Source: https://forward.com/culture/401649/richard-goodwin-speechwriter-for-lbj-jfk-and-rfk-dies-at-86/
  • ALT2: ... that Massachusetts politician Sumner Z. Kaplan (pictured) served in the Army during World War II, and later was promoted to brigadier general in the United States Army Reserve? Source: http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/obituaries/articles/2011/04/03/sumner_kaplan_91_state_legislator_judge_selectman/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nelson Santana
  • Comment: Article was 294 characters, and is now 2249 characters, thus more than 5 time expansion of article. Article checked for copyright violation and highest score is 9%, and is an unlikely violation. I have done my QPQ. I request that the hook be held for the main page until the article subject's birthday on 3 February, or the article subject's death anniversary of 20 March.

5x expanded by RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Self-nominated at 18:16, 4 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sumner Z. Kaplan; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• A nice article about an interesting figure. I concur that there has been a 5x expansion and that I find no plagiarism here. Article meets DYK-relevant policies. Good to go. Promoter please note nominator requests for hook to be used on specific date. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 19:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Regrettably, the submitted QPQ was a review with a severe error: the article had been moved from draftspace to mainspace on the same day it was nominated, so it was new enough, however the review failed it for newness reasons. Either the original QPQ will need to be re-reviewed, or a new QPQ will be needed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:37, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: I have passed the QPQ nomination per the findings of Skyshifter (talk · contribs).--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 02:36, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

• QPQ review has been successfully completed; restoring tick per review above by Ezlev. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:38, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

• RightCowLeftCoast, I don't think any of these hooks are that interesting to an uninformed audience—the first two definitely do not meet the standard, and the third is fairly meh. Could you please suggest some more interesting hooks? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:57, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

• ALT3 "...that Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy disliked Massachusetts politician Sumner Z. Kaplan (pictured) after he managed a senatorial campaign of an opponent?" source: WGBH.
• ALT4 "...that a park in Brookline, Massachusetts is named for the Massachusetts politician Sumner Z. Kaplan (pictured), who was also rabbi, and a brigadier general?" sources: The Boston Globe, & Jewish Daily Forward
• ALT5 "...that United States Army Reserve Brigadier General Sumner Z. Kaplan (pictured) had opposed anti-communist legislation when he was a member of the Massachusetts House of Representatives?" source: The Boston Globe

Are any of the above new hooks acceptable? If not, why not? If not, can they be approved upon?--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 23:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

ALT5 is fairly meh (a US politician opposing communism? no way!) but the other two have potential. New reviewer needed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

• @AirshipJungleman29: It was a big deal that during the Cold War that an American Army officer opposed anti-communist legislation. At the time it was the norm for those in the military to oppose communism, not oppose anti-communist efforts.

On Beacon Hill, Mr. Kaplan did not shy from taking stands that bucked the prevailing mood. In the mid-1950s, when US Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin turned the red scare into something of a national obsession, the Massachusetts House passed a bill calling for public school teachers to be fired if they refused to say if they were Communists.
In an unsuccessful attempt to get the bill reconsidered, Mr. Kaplan questioned its constitutionality and said it turned teachers into “second-class citizens.’’

— Bryan Marquard, The Boston Globe

Therefore if there is a want for a pro-communism during the 1950s hook, alt5 which was strikethrough'd by another editor above, would be it.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 19:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Oh right! That'll teach me to read properly. ALT5 unstruck. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:07, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Due to delays in hook selection, this will miss the initial goal of having this hook go up on the article subject's birthday of 3 February. Therefore, once approved can this hook please be held until the anniversary of the article subject's death of 22 March?--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 23:44, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset and AirshipJungleman29: Is the new review tick the appropriate tick for this nomination? Is there something wrong with the article? This delay has caused this DYKN to miss the first requested date of February 3rd, and I hope it isn't delayed so it missed the second requested date of March 22nd.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 00:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, the new review icon is appropriate: someone is needed to review ALT3, ALT4, and ALT5 since the previous three hooks have been struck; the nomination cannot pass without a review of those hooks. It is highly unlikely that it will take six more weeks to get this passed. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:57, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 6

Mary Clutter

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• ... that Mary Clutter created a women's caucus in the American Association for the Advancement of Science in 1971 and a Women In Science office to promote accomplishments of women scientists? Source: "Obituary: ASPB Pioneer Member Mary E. Clutter" - American Society of Plant Biologists
  • ALT1: ... that Mary Clutter used her directorial position at the National Science Foundation to require scientific conferences to include women speakers when presenting research done by them? Source: "Women's Place: On The Podium" - Washington Post
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Fritzsch
  • Comment: Moved to mainspace with this edit

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self-nominated at 03:47, 7 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mary Clutter; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

South Africa v. Israel (Genocide Convention)

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The International Court of Justice

• ... that South Africa's genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice also accuses Israel of apartheid? Source: [18][19]
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ingush towers

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 22:29, 6 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/South Africa v. Israel (Genocide Convention); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

New article, long enough, fully supported by both primary and secondary source provided, and is interesting. No problems facing the bold-linked articles. QPQ has been done. The hook is neutral and factual and does not hold any opinions. The nomination is good to go. Makeandtoss (talk) 12:58, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

I oppose that User:Makeandtoss will review this nomination he is involved in this WP:CTOP WP:ARBPIA area we need another reviewer that is not involved in the area. Suggest NPOV hook

• ALT1: ... that South Africa's genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice but Israel denies it as a blood libel Source: [20],[21] --Shrike (talk) 08:35, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

There is no such thing as you oppose my review, which is based on WP guidelines, nor is there such a thing as requiring another reviewer who is not involved in the area. The original hook is factual and does not have opinions in it, unlike the one you suggested. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:59, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

The WP:DYKRR is clear "use common sense here, and avoid even the appearance of conflict of interest." you edited this article and other articles in the WP:CTOP area. The original hook gives only prominence of South Africa POV so there is nothing neutral in it --Shrike (talk) 11:09, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

I've had people edit an article of mine before and edit in the topic area in question and still approve my nomination. It's not really that bit of a deal, so long as they are properly going through the requirements of approval. By the way, your proposed ALT is way more biased than the original hook and, considering you publicly state on your account that you are from Israel, you're the one that looks like they have a conflict of interest here and really should not be proposing such a hook. Silverseren^C 16:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

ALT1 is grammatically incorrect. starship.paint (RUN) 12:18, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose original formulation and ALT1. The original proposal throws in the apartheid allegation, which is out of scope of the Genocide Convention and will not be adjudicated by the ICJ. ALT1 also cites an emotive and non-substantive "blood libel" rebuttal rather than the actual reasons that Israel denied the charges at the ICJ, namely that they are acting in self-defense and that the official directives of the authorities conducting the war do not show any genocidal intent. ALT3 seems to be best alternative, as it is a NPOV statement of fact that gets at the heart of the issue that the ICJ has been asked to rule on (in the short term). --Chefallen (talk) 17:12, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that during South Africa's genocide case against Israel, the Israeli legal team argued that the International Court of Justice had no jurisdiction over the war in Gaza? Source: Haaretz starship.paint (RUN) 12:40, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Seems to me as a good suggestion though in my opinion the article is not stable yet Shrike (talk) 13:47, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Starship.paint: no objection in principle, and the proposed hook is entirely factual. My concern is that the statement leads a reader to assume that by jurisdiction we mean something it doesn’t mean. Shaw’s argument on the topic of jurisdiction was: (1) a procedural question about whether SA had given Israel enough time to discuss ahead of the case, and (2) whether there really is enough evidence to confirm the proposed facts of the case and the intent required therein. Plus none of this technical argument is currently explained in the article. Onceinawhile (talk) 15:28, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll have to look into this once I am free. I think we have time as the article will stabilize in the meantime. starship.paint (RUN) 23:06, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

You're right Onceinawhile, I found a source giving a description that roughly matches (1), whether there was an actual dispute between South Africa and Israel regarding their responses to each other. In that case ALT2 is potentially misleading. I've withdrawn it in the meantime. starship.paint (RUN) 06:06, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

ALT3: ... that South Africa's genocide case against Israel is aimed at persuading the International Court of Justice to order a ceasefire in Israel's war in Gaza? Source: Haaretz starship.paint (RUN) 09:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Support this version. NPOV statement of fact that gets at the heart of the issue that the ICJ has been asked to rule on, unlike original and ALT1. --Chefallen (talk) 17:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

@Chefallen and Shrike: - would either of you like to approve ALT3 then and mark this nomination as ready? I mean, the opposition to original hook and ALT1 is clear, surely the DYK promoter would not choose those. starship.paint (RUN) 15:00, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

As the court rejected the cease fire demand we need to reflect this in hook [22] --Shrike (talk) 17:58, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

ALT3 is factually incorrect taking a strict view. And its given source is dated Jan 11, well before the recent Order with detailed discussion, so the source is speculative. South Africa did not ask for a two sided "ceasefire". Going to the ICJ judgement, it records that South Africa asked for "The State of Israel shall immediately suspend its military operations in and against Gaza" (page 3). SA actually asked for a one-sided "suspension", not a "ceasefire". So a DNY claiming something that is demonstrably not in the actual Order is a pretty silly. The ICJ did in fact order a provisional measure that Israel prevent the commission of "(a) killing members of the group (b) causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group", (measure 1 on pages 24-25) where "group" is roughly the Palestinian population of Gaza, so did in fact order something approximating to what SA asked. (As Palestine (or Hamas) is not a State Party to the Convention, I doubt that ICJ can actually order either of them to do things, hence SA did not ask for that.) Rwendland (talk) 21:29, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. ALT3 is simply not correct - the case is aimed at stopping an actual or potential genocide, depending on your point of view. Onceinawhile (talk) 22:18, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Struck. starship.paint (RUN) 02:18, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

What was wrong with the original main hook again? It was completely factual per the ICJ filing by South Africa and is interesting because apartheid isn't as much discussed about the filing as compared to the genocide aspect. Silverseren^C 02:24, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

ALT4: ... that during South Africa's genocide case against Israel, the International Court of Justice initially ordered Israel to "punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide" against Palestinians in Gaza? Source: ABC News starship.paint (RUN) 02:47, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

• ITN Note that the article has also been nominated for ITN and so won't be eligible for DYK if it is posted there. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:38, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
• The ITN nomination was not approved so the nomination can proceed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 7

Yes, And?

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• ... that "Yes, And?" may be the new "Thank U, Next"? Source: Aswad, Jem (January 7, 2024). "Ariana Grande's New Single, 'Yes, And?', Arriving on Friday". Variety. Archived from the original on January 7, 2024. Retrieved January 8, 2024. "The song is apparently titled 'Yes, And?', a playful progression from her Grande’s 2019 semi-autobiographical single and album, 'Thank U, Next'."
  • ALT1: ... that Ariana Grande's "Yes, And?" may be her new "Thank U, Next"? Source: see above
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sky Above Clouds

Created by Lk95 (talk). Nominated by Your Power (talk) at 04:51, 12 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Yes, And?; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• @Lk95 and Your Power: A QPQ is still needed for this nom. If this is not provided in a few days, this will be marked for closure. Z1720 (talk) 15:36, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
  • @Z1720 should be done now ‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍ ‍ ^{💬 "Will you call me?"}
    _{📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?"} 06:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
• Doing a review. New enough at time of nom, no copyvio, long enough, two free use images (one in infobox and one of music video). To my understanding these should be ok, with the music video's image having a weaker case. QPQ done, sourcing good, article itself mostly good (there's some cleanup work that needs to be done, a good chunk of unsourced statements. Presumably this happened after your work). My main concern is the hook; it expresses I think a subjective statement without attribution to a source written in, potentially going against WP:VOICE. The hook could potentially be reworded to include an inline attribution or potentially just rewritten. My two cents, but as an unfamiliar reader I'd assume "her new x" implies it matches some qualities of her previous work, presumably popularity. I'm not familiar, do you think that the song achieved similar popularity to Thank U, Next, looking back now around a month later? Unfortunately this review came a bit late; maybe the speculative voice in the hook would work better if it had been reviewed sooner. toobigtokale (talk) 02:03, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Gebhard Schädler

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• ... that Gebhard Schädler was the first academically trained doctor in Liechtenstein? Source: "Schädler war der erste mit Sicherheit akademisch ausgebildete Arzt in Liechtenstein." https://historisches-lexikon.li/Schädler,_Gebhard
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Created by TheBritinator (talk). Self-nominated at 22:22, 7 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gebhard Schädler; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Comment What the (German) source says is that the doctor was the first where we have certainty that he was academically trained. Or in other words, there may be earlier ones as well, but we can’t say that with certainty. That’s another "first" hook that must be rejected. Schwede66 17:46, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
• TheBritinator, can you please provide an alternative hook? Schwede66 16:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Sure Schwede66. How about ALT1: "...that Gebhard Schädler was the only academically trained doctor practising in Liechtenstein for 12 years?" This would also bring the source of: Im Dezember 1813 nahm Grass seine Tätigkeit als Arzt in Vaduz auf. Neben ihm praktizierte in Liechtenstein nur der Landesphysikus Gebhard Schädler. https://historisches-lexikon.li/Grass,_Ludwig_(Josef_Johann_Ludwig) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBritinator (talk • contribs) 16:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
    • Pinging Schwede66, since previous unsigned ping wouldn't have gone through. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:56, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

• ALT1 checks out. That said, I suggest that the words "academically trained" aren't necessary, hence the hook could be simplified. I haven't done the other DYK checks; hence no tick. Schwede66 20:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

• Full review needed now that an alternative hook has been suggested. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:48, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 8

Maruxa and Coralia Fandiño Ricart

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Sculpture of the Fandiño Ricart sisters in Santiago de Compostela

• ... that Maruxa and Coralia Fandiño Ricart (pictured) became famous in Galicia because their bright, colourful outfits contrasted with the social repression of Francoist Spain? Source: Otero Cepeda, Encarna (2010). "As Marías: irmás Fandiño Ricart. Mulleres de luz inmensa na Compostela gris". Cultura Galega (in Galician). Retrieved 8 January 2024.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Martina Fernández (footballer)

Created by Grnrchst (talk). Self-nominated at 12:25, 11 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Maruxa and Coralia Fandiño Ricart; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Franz Jakob Späth

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• ... that Franz Jakob Späth's fortepianos were a favorite of Mozart, but refused by Beethoven?
  • ALT1: ...that Franz Jakob Späth's fortepianos were a favorite of Mozart, but Beethoven refused to play them? Source:
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I have not made any DYK nominations previously ([23]), so I believe I am exempt from the QPQ requirement. Thank you to User:Schminte who suggested this.

Created by Fehufanga (talk). Self-nominated at 13:36, 8 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Franz Jakob Späth; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Comment: I find the hook and article a bit confusing. Why did Beethoven refuse to play an instrument made by Späth? Was a personal grudge or did he just dislike the fortepiano? The hook and the article do not make this clear. Also, what is meant by "he improvised on the instrument", as it is a bit ambiguous. Also, in the hook, just saying "refused by Beethoven" isn't as clear as saying "but Beethoven refused to play them". Viriditas (talk) 20:36, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
  • @Viriditas: Junker and Tilman postulated that Beethoven was likely unaccustomed to playing on a Späth piano. improvised here refers to Musical improvisation. I have removed it since it seems only Tilman suggests that Beethoven continued to improvise on the same piano, and have added clarification on Beethoven's refusal.
  • ALT1: ...that Franz Jakob Späth's fortepianos were a favorite of Mozart, but Beethoven refused to play them? —*Fehufangą (✉ Talk · ✎ Contribs) 04:51, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@Fehufanga: I made a few copyedits; please review.[24] I am biased against ALT0, so I don't want to approve it. I just can't get past the "refused by Beethoven" phrasing. Maybe it's just my brain, I don't know. ALT1 is fine, but looking over the article, I see far more interesting potential hooks, particularly the information regarding who invented the tangent piano. Unfortunately, when I look into this, I find it somewhat confusing, as you say Späth was widely credited as the inventor of the tangent piano, even though Jean Marius had proposed a similar mechanism in 1716; but when I visit the article on tangent piano, I'm presented with an entirely different set of information. Obviously, there is a problem of parity, and perhaps competing historical narratives, but it would be nice to get some solid footing on this subject. Apologies if I'm making this difficult, I'm not trying to do that. Viriditas (talk) 20:29, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@Viriditas: I'm alright with the changes. I understand the confusion, as I myself encountered it when first reading about tangent pianos. Latcham (2004) lists several precursors of the tangent piano (p.156), but no source I found explicitly states that Pantaleon Hebenstreit as the inventor of the tangent piano, nor is the pantaleon ever called a tangent piano anywhere. I have reworded the first paragraph the article about tangent piano. I intend to rework the article entirely in a few months.—*Fehufangą (✉ Talk · ✎ Contribs) 05:55, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

@Fehufanga: Do you want to try coming up with more hooks to choose from, or do you think ALT1 and ALT2 are your best choices for now? Viriditas (talk) 06:13, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

@Viriditas: Apologies, what do you mean by ALT2? I'm striking out ALT0 and will use ALT1 instead. I'll try to get another alt today.—*Fehufangą (✉ Talk · ✎ Contribs) 07:51, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

@Fehufanga: It was a typo. I meant ALT0 and ALT1. Viriditas (talk) 20:15, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

@Fehufanga: Will you be adding another hook? I see that the Dreieinigkeitskirche used Späth's organ for more than 250 years. If that could be sourced, it might be a good hook. Viriditas (talk) 09:13, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

@Viriditas: I think I can work with that. I'll add a bit more content to that part before I propose a new hook.—*Fehufangą (✉ Talk · ✎ Contribs) 11:52, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

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Articles created/expanded on January 9

María Esther Biscayart de Tello

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• ... that all three of María Esther Biscayart de Tello's children were forcibly disappeared during the Dirty War in Argentina? Source: "Libertades Democráticas. Falleció María Esther Biscayart de Tello, madre de Plaza de Mayo". La Izquierda Diario (in Spanish). 2 April 2015. Retrieved 9 January 2024.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Madeleine Steere

Created by Grnrchst (talk). Self-nominated at 12:38, 11 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/María Esther Biscayart de Tello; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• QPQ still in progress, but can do review in the meantime. New enough, long enough, have some notes on sourcing. I can gleam with my anglophone understanding of Spanish that the claim is supported by the given source, but I don't know much about the source and others in the article. Some seem to have a strong left-leaning affiliation (I myself am left-leaning, but am cautious about publications with strong political leanings and this is a contentious topic); can you explain your views on their reputability? Alternatively you can provide a different source that I'd hopefully be more familiar with. I think the sources are probably correct here, but I just don't know enough about Argentina's media landscape. The hook is good and interesting otherwise. Text of article is copyright free, image I'm pretty sure is too (uploaded by a Monica Hasenberg, and attributed to a Hasenberg-Quaretti Archive; presuming she's the Hasenberg of the archive). Article's style and prose is otherwise good. Please respond to my main concern on reputability and maybe even ping me or this thread when the QPQ is done. toobigtokale (talk) 02:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
  • @Toobigtokale: If you're worried about the cited source, the hook is also supported by almost every newspaper source that I've come across. Just for example, it's supported by Clarín, the country's largest newspaper (with a liberal orientation),[25] and by Diario Popular, a local newspaper (with a conservative orientation).[26] I also found it supported in a master's thesis by María Emilia Nieto, at the National University of La Plata.[27] That her three sons were disappeared by the dictatorship is not a controversial statement from a left-wing source, it's common knowledge. As for QPQ, I'll keep an eye on it. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Mullae Park

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• ... that a bust of South Korean president Park Chung Hee in Mullae Park had a Japanese Rising Sun Flag tied to it and was dragged through the streets? Source: [28] (in Korean). Relevant quote and translation: 2000년 민족문제연구소 회원 등이 박정희가 '한 목숨 다해 충성함'이라는 충성혈서까지 써서 만주국 일본군관학교에 입학했고, 이후 일본군 장교로 복무한 친일 경력에 주목해 이 흉상에 욱일승천기를 씌운 뒤 밧줄로 묶어 쓰러트려 홍익대로 가져가려다가 징역 1년 6개월 형을 선고받았다. -> In 2000, members of the Center for Historical Truth and Justice announced that Park Chung Hee had sworn a blood oath where he wrote "Service Until Death" in order to enter a Japanese military academy, afterwards, with focus on his role as a Japanese collaborator, a Rising Sun Flag was tied to the bust, the bust was knocked over, and it was dragged to Hongik University. For this a one year and six month prison sentence was given.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lenin–Stalinnin tugunun adaa-pile
  • Comment: Lmk if you'd like me to translate anything else in the article

Created by Toobigtokale (talk). Self-nominated at 16:04, 9 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mullae Park; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• I just found this source in English: [29] toobigtokale (talk) 00:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Joseph Pierce (soldier)

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Pierce in military uniform, photographed during the Civil War

• ... that the Chinese Joseph Pierce (pictured) enlisted as a Union Army soldier, fought at the Battle of Gettysburg during the American Civil War, and was made a corporal? Source: McCunn, Ruthanne Lum (1995). "Chinese in the Civil War: Ten Who Served" (PDF). Chinese America: History & Perspectives. 10.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Mongol Khan
  • Comment: Well, let's just say I wrote this ONLY for the sake of DYK...

Created by TheLonelyPather (talk). Self-nominated at 00:17, 9 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Joseph Pierce (soldier); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Articles created/expanded on January 10

Stefano Černetić

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• ... that while pretending to be prince of Montenegro, Italian journalist Stefano Černetić met with royals and made Pamela Anderson a countess? Source: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-stefan-of-montenegro-exposed-as-italian-fraudster-nl3hz0h5d
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/15/prince-montenegro-conferred-honour-pamela-anderson-exposed-alleged/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/LaVonne Griffin-Valade
  • Comment: This is technically like 9 days old, but it was held up at AfD.

Created by BuySomeApples (talk). Self-nominated at 02:27, 20 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Stefano Černetić; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Tariq Abdul Haqq

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• ... that Tariq Abdul Haqq, who won a silver medal for Trinidad and Tobago in the 2010 Commonwealth Games, died fighting for the Islamic State in 2015? Source: As the last man to bring a boxing silver medal back to his home country in 2010, Haqq should be revered in Trinidad and Tobago, but a descent into religious extremism has tarnished his ring career. Haqq headed to Syria to fight for Islamic State four years later - and would be killed in 2015.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Poecilia picta

5x expanded by Guettarda (talk). Self-nominated at 02:47, 11 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tariq Abdul Haqq; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• The hook statement that he "died fighting for the Islamic State" does not appear in any form in the article, it only says he travelled there and was killed there. Gatoclass (talk) 13:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Guettarda: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 19:56, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Ethics (Abelard)

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• ... that Peter Abelard argues in his Ethics that infidels who sincerely believe themselves to be honouring God are not guilty of sin? Source: "What contempt of God do they have in what they do for God and on account of which judge themselves to do well?" (Abelard, Ethica, quoted in Decosimo 2018, p. 50.)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jorge Barón (politician)

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 21:05, 10 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ethics (Abelard); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Articles created/expanded on January 11

Anthony W. Case

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• ... that astrophysicist Anthony W. Case, who designed instruments for the Parker Solar Probe, survived four gunshot wounds during the 1998 Thurston High School shooting? Source: "Case was among 25 classmates wounded by student Kip Kinkel on May 21, 1998 ... 'I got shot three times in the back and one time in the leg,' says Case, now 41 and living in Sudbury, Massachusetts ... On August 12, 2018, NASA’s Parker Solar Probe blasted off a platform in Cape Canaveral, as Case and dozens of other scientists watched. Now an astrophysicist with the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, Case and his team developed a cup-like instrument for the probe that collects particles from the sun to help scientists learn more about solar winds." "24 years after Thurston School Shooting, Tony Case's life has taken on a remarkable trajectory", KLCC-FM; May 22, 2022
  • ALT1: ... that the injuries Anthony W. Case suffered in a school shooting led him to give up baseball and turn to astrophysics as a career? Source: "As a junior in high school, Tony had imagined that he might play baseball in college, but he dropped that idea after he was shot ... If his injuries from the shooting had not led him to give up his baseball ambitions, would he 'have studied physics and ended up working on all the cool stuff that I’ve worked on?' he asked. He doubted it. 'If I had been pushing more toward baseball, there’s no way I could have been studying as much,' he said."; "What Happens to a School Shooter's Sister?". The New Yorker; December 4, 2023.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Torture Camp on Paradise Street

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 07:08, 18 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Anthony W. Case; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Myanmar Photo Archive

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Yangon Photo Exhibition 2017

Yangon Photo Exhibition 2017

• ... that Myanmar Photo Archive revealed pictures from dusty attics and decaying photo albums? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20210219061130/https://www.mmtimes.com/news/archiving-lives-others.html
  • ALT1: ... that Myanmar Photo Archive discovered images of stylish women from the 1970s (pictured)? Source: https://www.fraglich.com/product/yangon-fashion-1979/
  • ALT2: ... that Myanmar Photo Archive asks what stories do images tell? Source: https://alkazifoundation.org/beh-hma-leh-where-are-you-the-forgotten-stories-of-ordinary-lives-in-myanmar/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Arbeiter-Schutzbund

Created by Munfarid1 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:14, 16 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Myanmar Photo Archive; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Leilani Tominiko

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• ... that Leilani Tominiko (aka Candy Lee) was New Zealand's first openly transgender professional wrestler? Source: "New Zealand's first professional transgender wrestler thinks the sky is the limit" (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nzs-first-pro-transgender-wrestler-aiming-high/EWY3SNDXRD7S3WCOKGRRSHPK5A/)
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Created by Summ23 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:36, 11 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Leilani Tominiko; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - ?
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• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, sourced, neutral and is plagiarism free. The hook is cited and interesting as stands. I wonder if it could be made "hookier" by referring to Candy Crush somehow? There's one citation missing, which I marked in the article, it would be great if you can fix it Summ23. Since it's their first DYK nomination, no QPQ is required. Really great to see Tominiko featured. Lajmmoore (talk) 11:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

@Lajmmoore: "how about ALT1: Did you know that New Zealand wrestler Leilani Tominiko (a.k.a. Candy Lee) has a signature move called the Candy Crush?" --Summ23 (talk) 01:03, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Summ23 that's great! Please could you format it on the line below this, following the format in the one at the top? So with the ... and with the terms in bold/linked that you'd like to see? It helps the person after me, who promotes the hook forward to see what to include. Lajmmoore (talk) 08:33, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

... that New Zealand wrestler Leilani Tominiko (aka. Candy Lee) has a signature move called the Candy Crush? Source: "New Zealand's first professional transgender wrestler thinks the sky is the limit" (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nzs-first-pro-transgender-wrestler-aiming-high/EWY3SNDXRD7S3WCOKGRRSHPK5A/)

Articles created/expanded on January 12

HorsegiirL

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• ... that a horse appeared on Dazed's "20 best tracks of 2023" list? Source: https://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/61561/1/the-20-best-tracks-of-2023-pinkpanthress-icespice-eartheater
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Matthew Turpin

5x expanded by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 23:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/HorsegiirL; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Hook is not accurate, because it wasn't an actual horse. Gatoclass (talk) 19:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

ALT1: struck for privacy reasons, see history

ALT2: ... that the British DJ Arielle Free was suspended from BBC Radio 1 for a week after criticising horsegiirL's "My Barn My Rules" live on air?

ALT3: ... that horsegiirL's "My Barn My Rules" appeared on Dazed's "20 best tracks of 2023" list?--Launchballer 22:24, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: All three alts verified; my preference is for alt1. Gatoclass (talk) 15:14, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

• Pulled over BLP privacy concerns. There is no ironclad secondary RS about the real name, and mentioning it seems to be against the subject's wishes. We definitely should not run ALT1, and I don't think we should have the subject's real name in the article at all. —Kusma (talk) 09:19, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

• A BLP privacy concern is a DYK showstopper. Schwede66 09:26, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for picking that up, Kusma. In reviewing the nomination, it never even occurred to me that the nominator might not have an ironclad link for so basic a fact as the identity of the artist, so did not check that particular hook fact. It seems from this point I cannot even rely on nominators to know the identity of their own subject, and I am really pissed about that because it just made all my future reviewing that much harder. Gatoclass (talk) 09:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Gatoclass, I would have likely missed this too, but fortunately Bernzrdo asked the right question on the talk page (after you had approved the nom). Also, I think the identification of the subject's name is likely correct, but it is all WP:SYNTH and not usable on a BLP, certainly not against the subject's wishes, and doubly certainly not on the Main Page. —Kusma (talk) 10:03, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you Kusma, and yes, I very much agree, it's lucky that this was caught before it went to the MP. Gatoclass (talk) 10:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Her name appears in this source on Refresher (magazine), which seems reliable. I'll take another look at this when I get back.--Launchballer 10:43, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Marie Vuillemin

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• ... that Marie Vuillemin was acquitted in the trial of the Bonnot Gang, as the prosecution defined her according to her gender rather than her role in the gang? Source: Parry, Richard (1987). The Bonnot Gang. London: Rebel Press. pp. 152–159. ISBN 0-946061-04-1.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Carmen Scheibenbogen

Created by Grnrchst (talk). Self-nominated at 11:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Marie Vuillemin; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• @Grnrchst: This isn't a review, more of a comment, but I wonder if both the article and the hook could be modified since the use of the term "defined" here isn't a common use of the term and thus could be confusing. Like, what does "defined her according to her gender" mean? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:39, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: I appreciate that this may not have been clear, I just wasn't sure how else to word it. To quote the source: "In [the prosecutor's] opening he outlined the salient features of the prosecution case and the intention to prove a general conspiracy among all the defendants, whom he classed in five categories : first there were the six principal offenders, [...] then five 'intermediaries', [...] five 'harbourers', [...] two providers of firearms, [...] and lastly the three women, Henriette Maitrejean, Marie Vuillemin and Barbe Ledech, graciously defined by Lescouve according to their sex rather than by their alleged criminal role." --Grnrchst (talk) 10:47, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
    • Perhaps: "... that the prosecution listed Marie Vuillemin's role in the Bonnot Gang as "woman", which lead to her being acquitted." Though I would have used the exact word in French from the prosecutor's opening if I could have found it easily. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 23:31, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• @Theleekycauldron, Gatoclass, and BlueMoonset: Any ideas on possible alternate wording for the hook here? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5:: I'd support MtBotany's alt proposal. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:33, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Lewes Friends Meeting House, Horsham Friends Meeting House

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Horsham Friends Meeting House in 2018

• ... that the Friends meeting houses in both Lewes and Horsham (pictured) were built in the 1780s for Quaker communities which have met continuously in those towns since the 17th century? Source: Reports from the Quaker Meeting Houses Heritage Project for the respective meeting houses, as cited in the articles: ref [1] for Lewes, ref [9] for Horsham; but for Horsham perhaps more clearly expressed in the Victoria County History of Sussex (ref [5]).
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Leonia Alternative High School and Template:Did you know nominations/Summer Streets
  • Comment: Alternative hooks welcome; I'm also open to splitting into two separate nominations if suitable hooks can be found for both.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:07, 13 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lewes Friends Meeting House; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Nippy (Better Call Saul)

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• ... that actor Jim O'Heir had eaten over 100 Cinnabon rolls prior to filming his scenes for the Better Call Saul episode "Nippy" and was directed to "live every bite"? Source: https://nypost.com/2022/07/27/jim-oheir-talks-better-call-saul-role-carol-burnett-and-cinnabons/
  • ALT1: ... that series creator Vince Gilligan stated the cast and crew was encouraged by Carol Burnett's presence on set during the Better Call Saul episode "Nippy", in which she made a guest appearance? Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/better-call-saul-waterworks-vince-gilligan-interview-1235195099/
  • ALT2: ... that after previously being referenced in the Better Call Saul episode Rebecca, actress Carol Burnett guest stars in "Nippy" as she was a fan of the series while the creative team was also a fan of hers? Source: https://www.vulture.com/2022/06/carol-burnett-joins-better-call-saul-for-final-episodes.html
  • ALT3: ... that the mall heist scenes in the Better Call Saul episode "Nippy" were filmed in an empty space of the Cottonwood Mall in Albuquerque, New Mexico, despite the story taking place in Omaha, Nebraska? Source: https://ew.com/tv/better-call-saul-producer-on-gene-dangerous-move-nippy/
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Improved to Good Article status by Dcdiehardfan (talk). Self-nominated at 04:26, 13 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Nippy (Better Call Saul); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Not a review, and I review oldest first so I probably wouldn't get to this much before late February (but would not object to any other editor reviewing this in the meantime); WP:NYPOST is not a reliable source, so if you wanted that hook, you would need to find a better source.--Launchballer 08:51, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
• Thanks @Launchballer. I also was thinking that in the back of my mind about the NY Post thing, and had to use it as it was the only primary source of the actor being interviewed saying so, unfortunately. I'll address the issue, and have opted to replace the primary hook with a new one, as shown above. Thank you for notifying me. -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 00:12, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Usual practice is to strike and propose new hooks as opposed to replacing them (since otherwise my comment doesn't make sense). The problem you have is that the NY Post is sufficiently unreliable that we don't trust them to not make it up, so we can't be sure that that interview did in fact happen. Thank you for the extra hook - full review needed.--Launchballer 11:30, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Apologies for the error. I understand the NY Post error, so hopefully that should be fixed. With that being said, I plan on making ALT3 the prime hook. I look forward to the review, thank you. -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 04:58, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer: I reviewed the page for GA but didnt bring up the source becasue given its an interview I thought that it was okay, should it be removed regaurdless? Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 20:06, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

I would do so.--Launchballer 20:11, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

@OlifanofmrTennant:, thank you for removing the content. @Launchballer: Sorry for the belated response, but I believe all the requirements should be addressed. At this current point, the actual DYK review awaits us, right? -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 00:44, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

I have a firm policy of doing my QPQs oldest first, as that's fair. I may revisit this if WT:DYK#Backlogs carries out its threat to time out nominations, but for now, please be patient. (Anyone else who wants a QPQ is free to review this in the interim.)--Launchballer 06:23, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Of course, I completely comprehend. I just wanted to confirm that was all and ensure there was no other outstanding issues, thank you in advance for (hopefully) committing to reviewing this DYK. -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 02:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

2024 College Football Playoff National Championship

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• ... that the 2024 College Football Playoff National Championship was the final such game under the four-team College Football Playoff format? Source: [30]
  • ALT1: ... that Michigan's victory in the 2024 College Football Playoff National Championship marked their first consensus national championship since 1948? Source: [31]
  • ALT2: ... that Michigan's victory in the 2024 College Football Playoff National Championship marked their first outright national championship since 1948? Source: [32]
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Westworld (game)

5x expanded by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 01:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2024 College Football Playoff National Championship; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Oppose ALT1 or any hook describing the 1948 national championship as "consensus". Cited article states "first outright national championship since 1948" but ALT1 hook changes this to "...consensus...". On the topic of national championships, "consensus" has several meanings. One is agreement between the two wire service polls (AP Poll and Coaches Poll), which the 1997 title fails (AP only). But the 1948 title didn't have agreement between those polls either... the Coaches Poll started in 1950. Another meaning of "consensus", the one used in the NCAA records book, is any national championship after 1950 awarded by one or more of the Big 4 selectors (AP Trophy, Coaches' Trophy, Grantland Rice Award, and MacArthur Bowl). The 1997 title meets that criteria with 3/4 of the selectors; the 1948 title does not (as it is pre-1950). PK-WIKI (talk) 03:20, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
  • @PK-WIKI: If you have interest in continuing the review, I have amended the hook and added a QPQ. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 00:51, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
    • @PK-WIKI: Is this article approved? If not, what needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 15:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

full review needed. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 13

Bernard Descôteaux

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• ... that Canadian journalist Bernard Descôteaux was born in Nicolet, Quebec, a place whose residents pronounce the final "t" while those outside the region do not? Source: https://www.google.com/books/edition/History_of_the_Discovery_of_the_Northwes/PRMzAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=nicolet+quebec+pronunciation&pg=PA26&printsec=frontcover
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hill Women

Created by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 16:48, 20 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bernard Descôteaux; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• While the hook is interesting, it is more about Nicolet rather than Descôteaux, so it may not exactly be the best option here. My suggestions are either to propose a hook specifically about Descôteaux, or perhaps try to get Nicolet to GA status so that this can run as a double hook. In addition, I'm not actually sure what the rest of the hook has to do with Descôteaux in the first place. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:27, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

• Not sure how I missed this. I would like to go with this hook as-is if possible. Also, I just realized that I was missing a QPQ. Adding that now. Ktin (talk) 18:20, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

@Ktin: Quoting WP:DYKINT: The boldlinked article should generally be the main or at least a major factor in the hook; avoid hooks that are primarily about an incident the subject is only tangentially related to. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:28, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: Unfortunately, I am unable to think of any better hook here. Suggestions? Ktin (talk) 07:56, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

@Ktin: Unfortunately, while his career seemed impressive, nothing stands out for a possible hook to me. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5:. Thanks. If nothing else, then I would want to go with the original hook as it definitely meets the interestingness criterion. What you have linked to is a guidance and not a definitive disqualifying criteria. This is evidenced by the phrasing generally be. If our intent is to surface interesting facts and lead readers to our newest articles, I think this does meet that objective. Would appreciate a review of the article and the hook as-is written. Ktin (talk) 08:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

• The article is new enough and long enough. The hooks is cited inline, and it is verified. A QPQ has been provided. Again, the hook is interesting, but it fails WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE given that it is not actually about Descôteaux. I checked the article for any possible hook information, but other than the awards (which I am skeptical make for a good hook even though they are impressive accomplishments) I'm afraid nothing stands out as being hooky. As such, it doesn't seem like this nomination can move forward unfortunately.

As for the hook information itself, it's mentioned as a footnote in the article and overall seems tangential to Descôteaux at best. It could probably be deleted from Descôteaux's article as it doesn't really have relevance to him. My suggestion would be, if possible, to bring Nicolet, Quebec to GA status or give it a 5x expansion to bring it DYK standards, then use the originally proposed hook for Nicolet instead. I should also note that the footnote was copied without attribution from the town's article, but that's not really the main concern here, but rather the appropriateness of the mention in Descôteaux's article itself. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:56, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

• As noted above in my last comment, I do not agree with the use of a guidance as a disqualifying criteria. Ktin (talk) 09:00, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Well, it won't disqualify the nomination, but it's a valid reason for coming up with another hook. Gatoclass (talk) 06:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Suggested alt:

• ALT1: ... that the Canadian journalist Bernard Descôteaux is credited with the economic revival of the independent newspaper Le Devoir? Gatoclass (talk) 06:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

If it was a major newspaper, it might work, but given the newspaper is small and niche, it doesn't really seem eyecatchy or hooky. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:05, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

@Gatoclass: you read my mind! I was thinking of this same hook last evening. I am good with this hook. Thanks again. Ktin (talk) 19:47, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Also, I do not agree with @Narutolovehinata5:’s characterization that it is small and niche. It is one of the top 3-4 Francophone newspapers in Quebec. Established in 1910, the paper has quite some respect. Ktin (talk) 19:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

The non-Quebecois reader might not get that context, so that's gonna be an issue. It's in the guidelines that we are writing for a broad audience, not a local one. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:10, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Respectfully, I disagree. I am going to ask for a different reviewer. Ktin (talk) 05:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

It's also worth noting, I think, that almost every source in the article mentions his editorship of Le Devoir in the headline, thus confirming it as his most noteworthy contribution.

New reviewer needed for ALT1. Gatoclass (talk) 11:30, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Jade Armor

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• ... that the creators of the cartoon Jade Armor hired Wushu martial artists to film stunts, which they based the show's animated action sequences on? Source: https://variety.com/2021/film/global/build-in-u-s-demand-is-boosting-diversity-in-animation-says-frances-jade-armor-producer-teamto-1234930752/ (filming stunts)
  https://senalnews.com/en/content/mifa-2022-jade-armor-a-show-that-braces-for-broader-female-representation (using wushu martial artists)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Avengers (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

Created by BuySomeApples (talk). Self-nominated at 03:19, 22 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jade Armor; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Jewish cemetery, Hoorn

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• ... that the Jewish cemetery in the Dutch city of Hoorn was cleared in 1968 to make room for a roadway, and the bodily remains and gravestones removed to the public cemetery? Source: https://jck.nl/joodse-gemeenten/hoorn
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ludwig Grass

Created by Drmies (talk). Self-nominated at 21:54, 14 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jewish cemetery, Hoorn; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

M-Beat

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• ... that DJ Rap reported receiving a month of death threats after playing M-Beat's "Incredible" in spite of a ban by the "Jungle Committee"? Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pubk9IvVy8M - clip from a Channel 5 documentary
  • ALT1: ... that Sinéad O'Connor personally invited M-Beat to remix her single "Fire on Babylon" after meeting him backstage at Top of the Pops? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/aug/14/she-spoke-truth-to-power-always-sinead-oconnors-affinity-with-black-music-and-liberation
  • ALT2: ... that despite having three UK Top 20 singles to his name, the jungle musician M-Beat was made homeless aged 21? Source: https://djmag.com/longreads/m-beat-return-jungle-pioneer
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rex Parker

5x expanded by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 13:26, 13 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/M-Beat; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Do I understand it correctly that Junior Hart stated that he first met M-Beat by accident in 1989 and helped him because of being impressed by his drumming, while actually Junior Hart is M-Beat's father? (Just a question, I'm not planning to review the article yet.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 02:15, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Not quite, Music Week asserted in its own words that that was how they met. I've been working on the principle that he disappeared for several years.--Launchballer 07:14, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Unlikely he had disappeared. He was about 13 in 1989. And he played in a school group. And according to the next section, he still lived with his parents at 21. (No, I'm not reviewing this.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 12:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Right. Well, for any future reviewer, 'disappeared' was the wrong word, and I meant Junior in any case - he could very well have not found out Marlon was his until later.--Launchballer 12:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 14

Perihan Çınar

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• ... that Turkish hockey player Perihan Çınar was many times named most valuable player and top goalscorer at domestic and international competitions? Source: "En iyi oyuncu" (in Turkish) [33], [34], [35], "Gol kraliçesi" (in Turkish) [36], [37], [38]
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nadezhda Bantle

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 10:17, 17 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Perihan Çınar; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Chris Armstrong (political theorist)

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• ... that the British political theorist Chris Armstrong calls for a "blue new deal" to secure ecological resilience for the ocean and a just blue economy? Source: From this review of Armstrong's Blue New Deal: "He argues it is time to rethink our relationship with the ocean to foster a resilient environment and a just economy at sea."
  • Reviewed: [[]]
  • Comment: I think the phrase "blue new deal" is a great one; I hope you agree!

Moved to mainspace by J Milburn (talk). Self-nominated at 18:46, 14 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Chris Armstrong (political theorist); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• You have over 100 DYK credits and thus need to provide a QPQ before this can go anywhere. Schwede66 16:23, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
  • I know; I'll get to it. Thanks! Josh Milburn (talk) 19:23, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
    • Reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Fanny Steers. Josh Milburn (talk) 10:10, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 15

Matt Stoller

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• ... that Matt Stoller believes that breaking up monopolies is “so central and so urgent that nearly any other cause or political relationship should be sacrificed in service of it”? Source: “ For many who knew Stoller or were familiar with his work, his boosting of Hawley was perhaps not surprising. Stoller is known for his dogmatic belief that taking on corporate power by breaking up companies that have gotten too big is the goal — so central and so urgent that nearly any other cause or political relationship should be sacrificed in service of it. His defense of Hawley, who had just a few years earlier become the first state attorney general to sue Google on antitrust grounds, was just the latest example.” Politico
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/On Abstinence from Eating Animals

Moved to mainspace by Thriley (talk). Self-nominated at 16:23, 25 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Matt Stoller; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Hermann Collitz

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• ... that Woodrow Wilson, Hermann Collitz, and Carey Thomas all taught at Bryn Mawr College before becoming presidents? Source: Collitz, K (1930) pg. 4,6 "Among his early colleagues [at Bryn Mawr] were Carey Thomas (Professor of English and Dean), Woodrow Wilson (Professor of History),...he was elected the first president of this society [the LSA] for 1925" Jaschik (2017) "Bryn Mawr College announced how it would deal with the legacy of M. Carey Thomas, who was its president from 1894 to 1922." Scolforo (2021) "At the request of Bryn Mawr College’s president, Kimberly Wright Cassidy, the Pennsylvania history agency removed a marker from the edge of campus that noted President Woodrow Wilson had briefly taught there."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/American Anthropometric Society and Template:Did you know nominations/Harrison School (Roanoke, Virginia)

5x expanded by Wugapodes (talk). Self-nominated at 04:16, 15 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hermann Collitz; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

(alternative hook which I found interesting) ALT1: ... that the German linguist Hermann Collitz had studied four languages at school by the age of 13, in addition to two more he encountered at home? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:34, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 16

Thoon Kramom (1866 ship)

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Thoon Kramom in 1892

• ... that a replica of the 1866 barque Thoon Kramom (pictured) was built for the shopping mall that now occupies its captain's company's old docks? Source: "the tall ship Sirimahannop, which is a replica of the ship Thoon Kramom that HN Andersen, the founder of East Asiatic Company, in 1883 sailed to Europe to open the teak trade between Thailand and Denmark"[39]; "Sirimahannop pays homage to its locality: Asiatique The Riverfront... which occupies a former dock of the Europe-Asia trade route ran by the East Asiatic Company."[40]
  • ALT1: ... that the 1866 barque Thoon Kramom (pictured) now has a replica serving as a floating restaurant? Source: Same as the above.
  • ALT2: ... that a shipload of Siamese teak carried by the Thoon Kramom (pictured) sold in Liverpool for a near 100 percent profit? Source: "In the autumn of 1883 Captain H.N. Andersen sailed a full cargo of teak to Europe on the Thoon Kramom... He succeeded in disposing of the teakwood in Liverpool at a near one hundred percent profit,"[41]
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Siam Niramit

Created by Paul_012 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:47, 21 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Thoon Kramom (1866 ship); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Cloaca (art installation)

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Wim Delvoye's Cloaca N°5 being exhibited

• ... that the Cloaca art installations (one pictured) create smelly faeces? Source: Broeckmann, Andreas (23 December 2016). Machine Art in the Twentieth Century. Cambridge, Massachusetts: MIT Press. pp. 215–217. ISBN 978-0-262-03506-4.
  • ALT1 ... that the Cloaca art installations (one pictured) turns food into something like faeces?
  • ALT2 ... that the Cloaca art installations (one pictured) create smelly shits?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lewis Pragasam

Created by Vladimir.copic (talk). Self-nominated at 04:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Cloaca (art installation); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• The article says "Critics also have argued whether or not the digested material produced by the installations can be regarded as faeces", so you can't describe it in the hook as faeces. Hook needs to be modified or substituted accordingly. Gatoclass (talk) 16:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

@Gatoclass: Does ALT1 work? BuySomeApples (talk) 04:18, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

I had another brief look at the sources around this and I think I probably characterised them in a too binary way. I should have time to revisit this better tomorrow. Most sources do refer to the digested material as "faeces" (or equivalent term) so I don't think the critical discussion negates this. ALT1 is fine but I'd love to remove the qualifying "like". I'll respond again tomorrow. Vladimir.copic (talk) 05:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

@Gatoclass: Is ALT1 approved? If not, what needs to be done to get this approved? Z1720 (talk) 19:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Well, the nominator said he would respond the next day so I've been waiting, but he never did. As for ALT1, it's okay but there is probably a better hook in there somewhere. Gatoclass (talk) 03:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry - I ended up getting side-tracked. I will have a look at this within the next 24hrs. I agree that there is probably a better hook than ALT1 but I actually think the original hook is usable. Most sources use faeces or an equivalent term to describe the digested material. See: "Delvoye’s machines—bearing the title Cloaca—was turning food to excrement" [42], "producing faeces at the other end" [43], "with the resulting product being faeces" [44], "The apparatus is fed food and produces poo" [45], "the machine that takes in food and turns it into shit" [46], "before it emerges at the other end of the machine as faecal matter" [47]. While some art critics have discussed in critical terms whether it can be called "faeces" most sources still refer to it as faeces (excrement, shit, poo). As I said, I need to revisit the sources as I wrote this as a draft a while ago.

If anything I would prefer to go for my ALT2. Give me 24hrs to revisit the sources and I'll reply here. Vladimir.copic (talk) 05:43, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Gatoclass: @BuySomeApples: @Z1720: Colleagues. I have now updated the article to better reflect the source (see page 217) as the critical discussion is really about if the machines perform the digestive process rather than if the end product can be called faeces or shit. Therefore, also taking into account the sources I quoted above, I strongly believe the original hook or (my preference) ALT2 should be approved. I am against ALT1 as it weakens the interestingness of the hook. Vladimir.copic (talk) 06:12, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Vladimir.copic, the source you yourself cite above quotes several sources stating that the end product is not shit, and itself ends up describing it as virtual faeces. So alts 0 and 2 are not appropriate, and neither are your attempts to avoid the question with your latest edit, which needs to be reverted. Gatoclass (talk) 15:19, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

You could go with something like:

*ALT3: ... that the Cloaca art installations (one pictured) are designed to create a smelly product virtually indistinguishable from human faeces? Or:

*ALT4: ... that critics have debated whether or not the excretions of the Cloaca art installations (one pictured) can accurately be described as real faeces?

- but you will still need to revert your last edit. Gatoclass (talk) 21:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Well I'm obviously not reverting my last edit as it is a more accurate summation of Denker's and Loring Wallace's discussions as outlined in Broekmann's book. Nowhere in that paragraph of the book does it talk about Denker and Loring Wallace discussing whether the product can be called faeces - they discuss the process (in fact the entire section does). This was my mistake when I first drafted it a few month ago and I'm not going to reintroduce that mistake now. Unfortunately neither ALT3 nor ALT4 are in the article so are not suitable.

You are wrong about the original hook. Basically every single source refers to it as faeces or an equivalent term (sometimes with a descriptor such as "virtual" or "machine-made"), the article refers to it as faeces and the artist refers to it as faeces. I can show you more sources: NBC, The Lancet, The Guardian, Forbes, Sydney Morning Herald, ArtNews, Observer. The hook does not say this is human faeces or real faeces - just faeces. When we talk about Van Gough's Sunflowers I don't think we would expect clarification these are not real sunflowers on the canvas but oil paint said to represent sunflowers. As much as I have enjoyed this discussion on representational realism (Ce n'est pas une merde) I suppose I could begrudgingly go with the following:

ALT5 ...that, according to the artist, the Cloaca art installations (one pictured) are "shit machines"? Source. Vladimir.copic (talk) 06:13, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

ALT5 looks fine as an AGF hook, however, the edit to which you refer is not, and I will resist any attempt to promote the article until it is reverted. Gatoclass (talk) 06:28, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

@Vladimir.copic and Gatoclass: Should this nom be closed since you guys are at an impass or...? BuySomeApples (talk) 20:46, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

If V. doesn't want to revert, this should go to WT:DYK for wider input. Gatoclass (talk) 02:06, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

This is the source: But can we say that, unlike Vaucanson's duck, this machine really shits? Christian Denker has described the process as both a "simulation" and an "imitation of biological processes,” while Isabelle Loring Wallace writes that "what the Cloaca machines show us, at considerable expense and labor, is not digestion, but digestion's facsimile, not shit, but shit's representation. An important criterion for Denker is that Delvoye's machine mimics only part of the functions of the human organs, while others -like the primary function of nourishing and providing energy - are lacking.

This is the apparently unacceptable way I summarised it in the article (inc. the text I deleted): Critics Christian Denker and Isabelle Loring Wallace have discussed whether the material produced by the installations can be called faeces. Critics Christian Denker and Isabelle Loring Wallace have discussed whether the installations' work can be identified as digestion. Denker described the work as a "simulation" and "imitation" of the biological digestive process that omits the provision of nourishment and energy which is the primary reason for digestion. Wallace commented that what the installations demonstrate, at a great cost, is not the digestive process but rather "digestion's facsimile, not shit, but shit's representation."

It is a more accurate summary and it would be counterproductive to self revert. I’m not sure what is happening here. It feel like I am being asked to be part of some kind of game where I have to make a concession on the quality of the article in order to get this DYK approved. This is something I’d prefer not to participate in. I’d like a new reviewer or, if the above text is so contrary to our content guidelines as to not be suitable for the mainpage, please feel free to reject the nomination. Vladimir.copic (talk) 11:21, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 17

Charlie Deakin Davies

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• ... that the British musician Charlie Deakin Davies cofounded the Trans Creative Collective, a directory of transgender musicians? Source: https://www.mothsandgiraffes.com/theactualcontent/yvan9cpvly1rvwccelwbem8ovs8em6
  • ALT1 ... that prior to releasing music as DIDI and Charlieeeee, Charlie Deakin Davies had produced The F Spot Femme Fatales, which appeared on the Daily Telegraph's "Best Folk Music Albums of 2015"? Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/what-to-listen-to/best-folk-music-albums-of-2015/, https://freshonthenet.co.uk/2017/05/reviewdidsorryawkward/ (for DIDI) and https://www.musicweek.com/labels/read/relentless-shabs-jobanputra-talks-amazing-potential-for-new-stars-plus-returning-artists-in-2024/089093 (for Charlieeeee)
  • ALT2: ... that Charlieeeee's debut single "Easy" featured Piri, who had previously released a song with that name less than 16 months earlier on Froge.mp3? Source: Music Week as above, plus https://readdork.com/features/hype-list-2023-piri-and-tommy/
  • ALT3: ... that Charlie Deakin Davies co-wrote Gary Barlow's "Let's Get Drunk" after being hired as a studio assistant? Source: https://www.royston-crow.co.uk/things-to-do/22028728.north-herts-musician-producer-works-gary-barlows-chart-topping-album/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sabrina the Teenage Witch: The Album

Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 11:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Charlie Deakin Davies; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Articles created/expanded on January 18

1892 Biddle vs. Livingstone football game

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• ... that the 1892 Biddle vs. Livingstone football game was the first college football game ever played between historically black schools? Source: many sources, e.g. SI
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game

Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:18, 20 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1892 Biddle vs. Livingstone football game; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• @BeanieFan11: Please provide a QPQ for this nomination. If not, this might be closed as rejected. Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 19:08, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
  • QPQ done. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:08, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 19

Okunoin

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Saturn V model, Okunoin

Tōrō-dō Hall, Okunoin

Okunoin cemetery

• ... that although ShinMaywa Industries never participated in the Apollo 11 mission, they built a tomb in the sacred site of Okunoin with a large-scale model of the rocket (pictured)? Source: [48] "Perhaps the most gawked at monument is the model of Apollo 11 erected in 1970, the year after the successful moon landing, by Shinmaywa Industries, which had nothing to do with the American spacecraft.
  "Apollo 11 was a big event, and our firm had a lot to do with flying objects," a company official said. "It was also thought Apollo would become a good tool for improving the firm's image." But, he said, the company was criticized for building such a garish monument in a holy place."
  • ALT1: ... that the hall of worship of Okunoin, a sacred site on Mount Kōya, Japan, holds more than 10,000 perpetually lit lanterns (pictured), some of which have been burning for more than 900 years? Source: [49] "At the end of the cemetery path was Torondo, the Lantern Hall, used as a gateway to Kūkai’s mausoleum and where 10,000 donated lanterns hang. Two of these lanterns have been burning continuously since 1088AD, one from a former emperor and the other from a peasant woman who sold her hair for a lantern to pray for her deceased parents. The hall was about to close just before we arrived, so we quickly slipped inside to admire its ornate woodwork and hand-carved lanterns while the sun began to sink and darkness once again settled around us."
  • ALT2: ... that the cemetery of Okunoin in Japan (pictured) contains more than 200,000 graves, many of them belonging to monks and daimyo? Source: [50] "across the lichen- and moss-covered graves of 200,000 Buddhist monks, feudal lords and military commanders fanning out from the seemingly ancient stone paths."
  • Reviewed: no QPQ needed (4th nom.)

Created by Broc (talk). Self-nominated at 22:21, 20 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Okunoin; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• • Comment: each ALT has its own image, as they cover different aspects.

Articles created/expanded on January 20

Jo-anne Wilkinson

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• ... that Jo-anne Wilkinson and Graeme Dingle had a leak in their boat while voyaging the Bering Sea? Source: https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/well-good/inspire-me/85220161/us-two-graeme-dingle-and-joanne-wilkinson-cofounders-of-the-graeme-dingle-foundation
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Seattle metropolitan area

Created by Panamitsu (talk). Self-nominated at 10:15, 23 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jo-anne Wilkinson; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Comment: Dingle wasn't knighted until 2017, and the leak occurred in 1992–1993, so he was just plain Graeme Dingle at the time of the incident on the Bering Sea. Paora (talk) 09:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Paora, I will keep that in mind in future. —Panamitsu (talk) 09:51, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Something Like This

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• ... that the album Something Like This by Ben Rector debuted at number one on iTunes' singer/songwriter album chart 5 minutes after its release? Source: Ben Rector Debuts At #41 On Billboard Top 200 & More: "Self-released on September 13th, Something Like This, was iTunes' #1 Singer Songwriter album 5 minutes after its official release, ultimately debuting at #41 on the Billboard Top 200"
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Let's All Go to the Lobby
  • Comment: Would appreciate other recommendations on how to word this better.

5x expanded by Panini! (talk). Self-nominated at 18:55, 22 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Something Like This; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• The wording looks fine to me. Gatoclass (talk) 05:55, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Wentworth-Bland flag

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Electoral flag used by Wentworth and Bland

• ... that the electoral banner used by William Wentworth and William Bland (reproduction pictured) for Australia's first colonial election has been cited as a forerunner to subsequent Australian flags? Source: State Library of NSW
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: If not approved with image then please assess without

Created by Willthorpe (talk). Self-nominated at 05:38, 20 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Wentworth-Bland flag; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Comment. This is less about the DYK eligibility, and I'm sure this is fine as an independent article, but... practically nothing in this article is about the flag. It's almost all about the background of the flag's creators and some events that happened contemporaneously with the flag's usage. The cited source, [51], doesn't even sound sure that the banner was used during the events discussed: "This banner was probably created for Australia’s first ‘national’ political elections held on 15 June 1843." (Of course, maybe they mean it was potentially created earlier.) A decent amount of the article seems like it'd really have a better home at 1843 New South Wales colonial election, and then prominently link that, perhaps? SnowFire (talk) 23:47, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
  • SnowFire The source further down has several mentions of the banner and the 1843 election, and the former's use during the latter. I previously cited two sources on this nomination. Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 06:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
    • Fair enough. I'm... still not sure that this information isn't really better treated elsewhere, or that the statement in the lede that "The banner is notable for its role in early Australian electoral democracy" is fully supported by the text. Again, it's good content, it's great to be on Wikipedia somewhere, but with the exception of the "Legacy" section, it really seems like the article is actually about 1843 New South Wales colonial election, Sydney. The flag was present during these riots, sure, but I'm not sure it was really the focus - presumably the rioters ire was aimed at Wentworth and Bland personally, not merely their flag. (But yes, this is DYKN, not RM. But I'd consider refactoring or moving the article on the above grounds, or else having more content on the flag - the "Legacy" section has some, but it's just two sentences.) SnowFire (talk) 19:44, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 21

John Blair (surgeon)

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• ... that the Scottish surgeon John Blair received his high school gold medal in the presence of his wife? Source: [52]
  • Reviewed: Anti-facial recognition mask

Created by Whispyhistory (talk), Philafrenzy (talk), and Iainmacintyre (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 09:18, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/John Blair (surgeon); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Not a very interesting hook IMO. Can't you come up with anything better? Gatoclass (talk) 05:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

A bit mean, but I agree. How about:

• ALT1... that the Scottish surgeon John Blair received his degree in surgery for a thesis on the "Slipperiness of Human Fat"?
• ALT2... that the Scottish surgeon John Blair was the only head boy at his school to receive his gold medal in the presence of his wife and child? (I think this was what Whispyhistory was actually getting at)
• ALT3... that a shortage of gold meant that it was 60 years before the Scottish surgeon John Blair received his gold medal for being head boy at his school? (Whispyhistory to check the exact number of years) Philafrenzy (talk) 10:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Ah, much better, thanks! I will return a little later to complete the review. Gatoclass (talk) 11:55, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Actually, "head boy" won't work because it differs from dux. Gatoclass (talk) 11:09, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Would "best student" be better? Whispyhistory (talk) 12:10, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Angelle (singer)

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• ... that despite being the subject of an entire television channel, Angelle's debut single "Joy & Pain" only reached No. 43 on the UK Singles Chart? Source: https://www.thefreelibrary.com/FLOP+IDOL;+Millionaire+boyfriend,+Britney+looks+and+TV+channel...-a091569536
  • ALT1: ... that the British entrepreneur Sarah Bennett went from being "one of the biggest flops in pop history" to appearing on the Sunday Times Rich List 2017? Source: as above, plus https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/illionaire-mum-sarah-bennett-success-24-hours-maternity-leave-five-children-kids-a7785736.html
  • ALT2: ... that Colin Paterson described Paul King's interview of the British singer Angelle as "his most degrading moment since he put on that yellow tartan suit for the Love And Pride video"? Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2002/jul/20/artsfeatures.features
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fair Work Ombudsman v Quest South Perth

5x expanded by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 14:38, 21 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Angelle (singer); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Articles created/expanded on January 22

Walker Keith Baylor

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• ... that Walker Keith Baylor voted in favor of a bill entitled "an act to more effectually prevent Sabbath breaking"? Source: Journal of the Alabama House of Representatives of the State of Alabama, begun and held at the town of Cahawba, on the third Monday in Nobember, 1825, Being the Seventh Annual Session of the General Assembly of Said State. Cahawba: William B. Allen, State Printers. 1826. pp. 100–101 – via the Wayback Machine.
  • Reviewed:

Created by Aneirinn (talk). Self-nominated at 23:07, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Walker Keith Baylor; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Drive-by comment - the hook as written is not particularly interesting. It's not really surprising that a guy from Alabama in 1825 would vote this way. It might be marginally more interesting if we include his other vote of interest. Something like:
  • ALT1: ... that Walker Keith Baylor voted for the prevention of Sabbath breaking, but against the suppression of immoral behavior?
• Then at least you have the juxtaposition of the stances, which is somewhat more interesting. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 07:19, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Thanks, I totally agree, the proposed alternative is much more interesting and a great improvement. Aneirinn (talk) 03:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
  • ALT2:... that Walker Keith Baylor issued a penal bond to his predecessor in the Alabama Senate while a judge? Source: "Deeds—Wills—Administrations of Jefferson County, Alabama" (PDF). Birmingham Public Library. pp. 13, 14.
    "Journal of the Senate at a Session of the General Assembly of the State of Alabama" (PDF). 1837.
    Journal of the Senate, at a session of the General Assembly of the State of Alabama, begun and held in the City of Tuscaloosa, on the first Monday in December 1838. Tuscaloosa: Hale & Eaton, State Printers. 1838. p. 2 – via the Wayback Machine.
  • ALT3:... that Walker Keith Baylor issued a penal bond to his predecessor in the Alabama Senate? Source: "Deeds—Wills—Administrations of Jefferson County, Alabama" (PDF). Birmingham Public Library. pp. 13, 14.
    "Journal of the Senate at a Session of the General Assembly of the State of Alabama" (PDF). 1837.
    Journal of the Senate, at a session of the General Assembly of the State of Alabama, begun and held in the City of Tuscaloosa, on the first Monday in December 1838. Tuscaloosa: Hale & Eaton, State Printers. 1838. p. 2 – via the Wayback Machine.
  • ALT4:... that Walker Keith Baylor was a frequent visitor to the Old University of Alabama Observatory? Source: Owen, Thomas McAdory (1921). History of Alabama and Dictionary of Alabama Biography. Vol. 3. Chicago: The S. J. Clarke Publishing Company. p. 117 – via the Wayback Machine.

Fighting Vanguard

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• ... that the Fighting Vanguard waged a guerrilla war against the Syrian government in the 1970s and 1980s? Source: various, see article
  • ALT1: ... that the Fighting Vanguard assassinated multiple relatives of Syrian president Hafez al-Assad? Source: Conduit 2019, p. 101 & 110 and Lefèvre 2013, p. 103.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/No-confidence motion against Imran Khan

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 08:28, 23 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Fighting Vanguard; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Caspar Richter

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• ... that conductor Caspar Richter co-founded the orchestra of the Vereinigte Bühnen Wien which performed the world premieres of Freudiana, Elisabeth, Mozart!, and Rebecca? Source: "Casper Richter was a co-founder of the "Orchester der Vereinigte Bühnen Wien" and he was the head of it for over 20 years. As chief conductor, he led the premieres of FREUDIANA, ELISABETH, MOZART!, REBECCA, WAKE UP as well as numerous German-language premieres such as A CHORUS LINE, LES MISÉRABLES, THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA or ROMEO & JULIA."
  Friedrich Gulda School of Music obituary
  • Reviewed: To come
  • Comment: Alternate hooks welcome!

Moved to mainspace by Thriley (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 21:17, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Caspar Richter; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• A nice little article but with some issues. It was obviously written by someone who does not speak English as their first language, and I cleaned up the prose somewhat. The opening section needs clarity over when things occurred (specific dates would be best, but even something more generic like "in his youth he studied...") There's nothing in the article to indicate how old he was and at what point in his life he was studying piano, working as a bar pianist, and studying in Hamburg (was he 10, 20 30, 40 y.o?) Also, the use of the German word Knabenkantorei is not clear to me; although I gather it is some type of choir. If it's a proper name of a specific ensemble that should be clarified. If it's a German word for a type of choir (a church choir?) then it would probably be better to describe the choir using English words only and remove the word Knabenkantorei entirely per WP:MOS. Other things that need fixing: the awards section lacks citations, no place of death is given, and most pressingly the use of the Friedrich Gulda School of Music website source (see here) is not appropriate. This is a self published non-independent source without an attributed author and should not be used as a reference as it can not be considered reliable (we would at least need an attributed author to determine if it was written by a subject matter expert in order to use a source like this per WP:SELFPUBLISHED). I would think there would be other news sources for much of this same content that could be located in independent secondary sources. I have placed tags where there are issues. Otherwise, the article is new enough, long enough, within policy, and the hook fact and length is verified. Once these issues are fixed please ping me.4meter4 (talk) 20:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

  4meter4, I can't fix all - vacation - but found better sources:

  • Volksoper, date of death and more
  • Austrian Press Agency (APA)
  • Der Standard (using APA)
  • Deutsche Oper Berlin
  • pnp (newspaper, author)
  • Deutsche Musical Akademie

  The article is basically a translation from German, with the normal issues. I guess we can forget already the original intention to have a DYK on his day of death, and may take some more time to improve. I'll be away and of limited use for another week. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:51, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

These look like better refs. I understand that you need time. Ping me when updates have been completed. Enjoy your vacation Gerda.4meter4 (talk) 23:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 23

Gasparilla Pirate Festival

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Gasparilla Pirate Boat Float

• ... that during the annual Gasparilla Pirate Festival (pictured), leading citizens of Tampa, Florida, dress up like pirates and hold a victory parade after "invading" the town in their pirate ship? Source: https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-hillsborough/gasparilla-2024-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-annual-pirate-fest
  • Reviewed: QPQ exempt
  • Comment: This annual event takes place this coming Saturday (Jan. 27) so it would be great if this DYK item appeared on that date.

Improved to Good Article status by Zeng8r (talk). Self-nominated at 20:42, 23 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gasparilla Pirate Festival; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers pirate ship (for ALT2)

• Zeng8r Recent GA (1-21-23) so the article qualifies for DYK. There are probably more hooks from sentences like this "Crowd size for the Parade of Pirates is typically about 300,000, making it one of the largest annual parades in the United States." I have trouble connecting all the events contained in ALT0. I cannot confirm that "leading citizens of Tampa, Florida dress up like pirates and hold a victory parade after invading the town in their pirate ship". So if you want that hook you will need to show me where those words appear in the article cited.
  The rest of the article is cited with references and it is neutral. No QPQ is required. The image is free and I do not find evidence of plagiarism in the article. I am surprised that a GA has so many citations in the lead see MOS:LEADCITE. The information is repeated in the article so I think that the lead citations are not needed. Pinging Viriditas as I came here from DYK talk at their urging. Bruxton (talk) 01:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

• Comment. I agree; good review. I hope Zeng8r finds time to respond. Viriditas (talk) 07:47, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that since 1904, the Gasparilla Pirate Festival (pictured) in Tampa, Florida has featured a pirate themed parade?
• ALT2: ... that the annual Gasparilla Pirate Festival (pictured) inspired the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to install a pirate ship in their stadium?

I see that this wasn't approved in time for yesterday's Gasparilla Day. Not sure why the original hook wasn't acceptable, as it's a one-sentence summary of the event that's paraphrased in pretty much every one of the 80+ article citations, but whatever. The suggested alternatives are fine and it's still Gasparilla season so it's not too late to make this a DYK item. ADDENDUM: Here's another idea: the Outbound Voyage is the culminating event of the Gasparilla Season and will take place on March 2 this year. The DYK hook could refer to that item and run on that date. Zeng8r (talk) 16:14, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

There were too many moving parts to get this to the main page in a three day window. March 2 should work. see discussion Bruxton (talk) 21:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Oh, thanks, I had not seen the primary discussion on this. Zeng8r (talk) 01:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

I designed the hooks and the nominator approved but the hooks need a third editor to approve. Bruxton (talk) 22:39, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Leeds 2023

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Leeds 2023's opening event

• ... that Leeds 2023 began as a bid for European Capital of Culture, but post-Brexit exclusion from the scheme led to the city running an independent year of culture? Source: "Leeds is going to host its own ‘Year of Culture’ in defiance of last year’s ruling that UK cities will be excluded from the European Capital of Culture competition in 2023." https://www.artsprofessional.co.uk/news/leeds-plans-own-year-culture-after-european-let-down
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Megan Barton-Hanson (Hey Tracey! part)
• This DYK nomination is part of a paid project for Leeds 2023 - see Wikipedia:GLAM/LEEDS 2023 - I've done these nominations as part of previous paid roles and it has been OK in the past

Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Self-nominated at 21:24, 29 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Leeds 2023; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Spring Lake (King County, Washington)

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• ... that there is a 370-acre (150-hectare) park between Spring Lake and Lake Desire, consisting of former timber land? Source: https://kingcounty.gov/en/dept/dnrp/nature-recreation/parks-recreation/king-county-parks/natural-working-lands/spring-lake
  • ALT1: ... that the 900-foot (270-meter) tall Echo Peak lies between Spring Lake and Lake Desire, offering views of both? Source: https://www.wta.org/go-hiking/hikes/spring-lake-lake-desire-park-echo-mountain

  https://kingcounty.gov/en/dept/dnrp/nature-recreation/parks-recreation/king-county-parks/natural-working-lands/spring-lake

  • ALT2: ... that Spring Lake has suffered from an infestation of Eurasian water milfoil, a noxious weed? Source: https://your.kingcounty.gov/dnrp/library/water-and-land/lakes/spring-lake/spring-lake-aquatic-weed-final-report-2011.pdf
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: Equally happy with any of the three hooks, even though they focus on different aspects

Created by DirtyHarry991 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Spring Lake (King County, Washington); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Claire Guichard

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• ... that Claire Guichard replaced future French Prime Minister Gabriel Attal in the French Parliament? Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67958286
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Stephen Gould (tenor)

Created by Moondragon21 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:12, 23 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Claire Guichard; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• @Moondragon21: Based on DYKcheck: prose size fulfills criteria (2569 characters), article is recent enough. Suggest changing future to current in the hook.
  Suggestion
  ALT1:... that parliament member Claire Guichard once played in the miniseries Entre terre et mer? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 23:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
• @Jeromi Mikhael: Good idea, I support changing future to current for logical sense. Moondragon21 17:37, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 24

Demise and revival of compulsory figures

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Sonja Morgenstern from Germany skates a compulsory figure, 1971

• ... that the demise of compulsory figures in international figure skating occurred in 1990, after the International Skating Union voted to remove them in 1988? Source: "No More Figures in Figure Skating" . The New York Times. Associated Press, 9 June 1988.
  • ALT1: ... that a revival of compulsory figures began In 2015, when the first World Figure Championships (renamed to the Figure and Fancy Skating Championships in 2017) occurred in Lake Placid, New York? Source: Radnofsky, Louise (20 December 2019)."Who Needs Triple Axels and Toe Loops—Give Us 'Compulsory Figures'". The Wall Street Journal.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bdóte

Created by Figureskatingfan (talk). Self-nominated at 23:59, 24 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Demise and revival of compulsory figures; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• @Figureskatingfan: Quick comment: ALT1 will need to be revised as parentheticals are not allowed for DYK hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk .contributions) 10:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
• @Narutolovehinata5: No problem, here ya go: ALT2: ... that a revival of compulsory figures began In 2015, when the first World Figure Championships, which was renamed to the Figure and Fancy Skating Championships in 2017, occurred in Lake Placid, New York? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:51, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Christine (Figureskatingfan), ALT2 comes in at 202 prose characters, too long for DYK, so I've struck it. Suggest you drop the text between the commas as an unnecessary (and very long) detail that detracts from general interest. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
    • @BlueMoonset:, how 'bout this, then: ALT3:... that a revival of compulsory figures began in 2015, when the first Figure and Fancy Skating Championships occurred in Lake Placid, New York? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 21:37, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
      • Christine (Figureskatingfan), it didn't use that name in 2015, so no. Sorry. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:33, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
        • @BlueMoonset: ALT4:... that a revival of compulsory figures began in 2015, when the first World Figure Championships, later renamed Figure and Fancy Skating Championships, occurred in Lake Placid, New York? Hook length comes in at 183 characters, which is below the limit. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 17:45, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Robert Brigandyne

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• ... that Robert Brigandyne was a shipwright from Kent who was sent to Portsmouth to build a drydock? Source: Hewerdine, Anita (August 1998). The Yeomen of the King's Guard 1485-1547 (PDF) (D.Phil. thesis). London School of Economics. pp. 82, 202.
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: QPQ:This is my fourth nomination

Created by AntientNestor (talk). Self-nominated at 16:21, 24 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Robert Brigandyne; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Hook is uninteresting. Also, the phrase "[he] alone had charge of naval matters" needs attribution. Gatoclass (talk) 01:13, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
• The phrase "[he] alone had charge of naval matters" is a direct quote from the cited source, reference 7 at the time of posting. Now reformatted. Alt hook suggestions welcome.--AntientNestor (talk) 07:15, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
• ALT 1 hook: ... that Robert Brigandyne built the first dry dock in England because the new warships of King Henry VII grew too big to use the earlier method of repair of dragging them onto a mudbank? Source:Goldingham, C. S. (1918). "The Navy under Henry VII". The English Historical Review. 33 (132): 480. ISSN 0013-8266. --AntientNestor (talk) 07:46, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

ALT1 is quite long and confusing. @Gatoclass: Do you have any suggestions on how to make the hook more concise or snappier? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:05, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

• ALT 2 hook: ... that Robert Brigandyne built the first dry dock in England because the new warships of King Henry VII grew too big to repair on mudbanks? Source:Goldingham, C. S. (1918). "The Navy under Henry VII". The English Historical Review. 33 (132): 480. ISSN 0013-8266. --AntientNestor (talk) 07:46, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
• Thoughts on ALT 3: "...that Robert Brigandyne built the first English dry dock to replace mudbank repairs?" The word "replace" could be substituted with something like "supersede" if that is more fitting. Fritzmann (message me) 18:04, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

That one's no good, it sounds like they were repairing mudbanks.

There is a wrinkle with ALT2 as well, in that, according to one source I found, there is evidence of a naturally occurring dry dock in England prior to this one, so I would suggest the hook is modified as follows:

*ALT4: ... that Robert Brigandyne constructed the first purpose-built dry dock in England after the new warships of King Henry VII grew too big to repair on mudbanks? Gatoclass (talk) 18:42, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

I think we're getting somewhere now. Thanks. --AntientNestor (talk) 21:14, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 25

Gogi-guksu

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• ... that the dish gogi-guksu, from South Korea's Jeju Island, developed in part because of the Japanese colonial period? Source: [53]. "These noodles come from Japan," he said. "Traditionally on Jeju we didn’t have noodles." He continued that the noodles were introduced during the Japanese occupation and were considered a delicacy only available to the affluent. Jeju did not have noodles before the colonized period because their preparation was very time-consuming. I have some sources in Korean too.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nicolinas
  • Comment: Hook is a little wordy so appreciate any feedback

5x expanded by Toobigtokale (talk). Self-nominated at 01:46, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gogi-guksu; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Olivetti Valentine

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Olivetti Valentine typewriter (1969)

• ... that in 2016, David Bowie's Olivetti Valentine typewriter (pictured) was sold at auction by Sotheby's London for £45,000 – in spite of a presale estimate of £300–£500? Source: "A red Olivetti Valentine typewriter, designed by Sottsass ... sold to a telephone bidder for £45,000 pounds."
  The Telegraph (UK): https://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/art/david-bowie-auction-sale-of-late-artists-personal-collection-put/
  See also: https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2016/bowie-collector-part-iii-design-ettore-sottsass-memphis-group-l16149.html
  • ALT1: ... that Ettore Sottsass's design of the Olivetti Valentine typewriter (pictured) was inspired by the pop art nudes of painter Tom Wesselmann? Source: "Sottsass transcended the sameness of typewriter design to give it an endearing personality. He tuned into Pop art, citing the orange nipples and pink breasts in Tom Wesselman's nudes as inspiration for the orange scroll caps."
    The Metropolitan Museum of Art: https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/739409
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Patricia Davies (cryptographer)
  • Comment: I'm indifferent as to which hook would be preferable. Open to others' preferences and/or suggestions for improvement! Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 22:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Created by 842U (talk). Nominated by Cl3phact0 (talk) at 13:14, 29 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Olivetti Valentine; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

1997 Spring Creek flood

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• ... that during the 1997 Spring Creek flood, a railroad embankment suppressed 8,250 cubic feet (234 m³) of water per second, which also caused a train to derail? Source: KUNC
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Anjali Lama
  • Comment: QPQ coming soon.

Created by Tails Wx (talk). Self-nominated at 03:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1997 Spring Creek flood; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Articles created/expanded on January 26

Seattle metropolitan area

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• ... that the Seattle metropolitan area has several U.S. military bases, including the world's third-largest arsenal of nuclear weapons? Source: The Seattle Times
  • ALT1: ... that the Seattle metropolitan area has a higher population than the rest of Washington state? Source: The Seattle Times
  • ALT2: ... that the Seattle metropolitan area absorbed 90 percent of new technology jobs created in the United States from 2005 to 2017? Source: The Washington Post
  • ALT3: ... that the Seattle metropolitan area has approximately 290,000 workers in the technology industry? Source: The Seattle Times
  • ALT4: ... that the Seattle metropolitan area has 9 federally recognized tribes and 77 cities and towns? Source: World Association of the Major Metropolises (pp. 80–83)
  • ALT5: ... that the Seattle metropolitan area includes two major volcanoes? Source: KQED/AP
  • Reviewed: WNET (Rhode Island)
  • Comment: More hooks to come as expansion continues.

5x expanded by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 00:09, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Seattle metropolitan area; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Article has a fivefold expansion since 26 January according to DYK check. Article looks good, although I haven't been able to verify any of the hooks.

ALT0 I'm a bit confused about the source because while it does mention nuclear bases and the nuclear arsenal, it says "Washington", not the "Seattle metropolitan area". Do you have a source which explicitly says "Seattle metropolitan area"?

ALT1 I'm a bit confused about this one because it says that the Washington state population is 7,676,000 whereas the metropolitan area is four million.

ALT2 says that five metro areas (Boston, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose and Seattle) absorbed 90% of technology jobs, not that Seattle alone did.

—Panamitsu (talk) 01:48, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

• Struck ALT2, thanks for pointing out my mistake. I can't find a source for Bangor being in the CSA, so I'll strike it as well; looking to add more hooks soon as I continue expansion. For ALT1, it's simply stating that the Seattle metropolitan area has the majority of Washington's population, but I tried to word it to be more interesting. SounderBruce 04:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oh I'm sorry, I completely missed the "rest of". I'll approve that hook; it appears that you are looking for more hooks so I'll let give you some time before I approve, but if you are happy with this look let me know and I'll add the approve template. —Panamitsu (talk) 09:15, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Panamitsu: Has this nomination been approved? If so, please add {{subst:DYKyes}} below and sign your name so that the DYK bot can move this to the approved list. If not, what still needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 23:27, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

• I thought nominator wanted to add more hooks but I'll approve. —Panamitsu (talk) 23:51, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

• @Panamitsu and Z1720: I did want to add more hooks, and I have yet to add the necessary QPQ, so this nomination shouldn't be approved yet. SounderBruce 03:19, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• @SounderBruce: please add the necessary QPQ, or the nomination will be rejected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

• @Panamitsu: QPQ and more hooks added. Sorry if they're a bit rushed, I'm no a fan of getting warned of a rejection so soon into the process. SounderBruce 21:30, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Georgetown football, 1874–1889

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• ... that the 1874 Georgetown football team included two "football censors" – a position whose roles are unknown? Source: "The first attempts at organizing football on campus came in 1874. A meeting of students held on November 1 of that year named a committee of 15 to form a football association. This committee elected a president, vice president, secretary-treasurer and two censors. Exactly what a football censor did in 1874, the College Journal does not explain."
  • ALT1: ... that the first game in Georgetown football history was never played? Source: see hoyasaxa and HoyaFootball.com, which lists the earliest game results - their first scheduled game in 1881 was a forfeit win because their opponent didn't show up
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/pending
  • Comment: Nominating one day late due to waiting for the AFD to close.

Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:14, 3 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Georgetown football, 1874–1889; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Line of Duty (series 3)

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• ... that Jed Mercurio almost let "The Caddy" live? Source: [54] and [55] Quotes: "Dot’s escape was a bloody affair, and ended with him riddled with bullets, recording his dying declaration for Kate Fleming before passing away" and "Also, at the end of season 3, I seriously considered keeping the Caddy hidden from the rest of the team. Cottan came up with lots of plausible denial, framed Steve and continued within AC-12. But I knew people were desperate for justice."
  • ALT1: ... that Jed Mercurio almost let "The Caddy" live in series 3 of Line of Duty? Source: Same sources as above
  • Reviewed: N/A: First nomination
  • Comment: This is a work of fiction, but the fact considers real-world production information by sourcing a quote from the creator/writer. I believe that should allow it to pass DYKFICTION. I also came up with an alt hook In case the first would be considered an Easter Egg link. This is my first nomination, so I shouldn't need to review another article. I might also be able to try another alt if neither pass DYKFICTION.

5x expanded by TheDoctorWho (talk). Self-nominated at 04:53, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Line of Duty (series 3); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Maria Leshern von Herzfeld

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• ... that Maria Leshern von Herzfeld organised the prison escape of the Russian revolutionary Peter Kropotkin? Source: Ginev, V.N. (2016). "Воспоминания М.П. Лешерн фон Герцфельд о народнической пропаганде среди крестьян Самарской и Саратовской губерний в 1877–1879 гг" [Memoirs of M.P. Leshern von Herzfeld about the Narodnik propaganda among the peasants of Samara and Saratov provinces in 1877-1879] (PDF). Trudy (in Russian). Saint Petersburg Institute of History. 2 (18): 381–382. ISBN 978-5-4469-0997-1. OCLC 978507828. Retrieved 26 January 2024.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Paul Pavelka

Created by Grnrchst (talk). Self-nominated at 12:50, 30 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Maria Leshern von Herzfeld; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Family 1

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• ... that Family 1, a closely related group of Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, place the story of the woman caught in adultery not in its usual place in the Gospel of John, but at the end of the book as a separate story? Source: Comfort, Philip Wesley (2017). A Commentary on Textual Additions to the New Testament. Grand Rapids, MI: Kregal Publications, pp. 83-84
  • Reviewed:

Improved to Good Article status by Stephen Walch (talk). Self-nominated at 16:30, 28 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Family 1; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• @Stephen Walch: This isn't a full review, but the current hook cannot be used as it is over 200 characters long. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:06, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

• Hi @Narutolovehinata5: : how about:

• ALT1 ... that Family 1, a closely related group of Greek New Testament manuscripts place the story of the woman caught in adultery at the end of the Gospel of John as a separate story? Source: Comfort, Philip Wesley (2017). A Commentary on Textual Additions to the New Testament. Grand Rapids, MI: Kregal Publications, pp. 83-84

• That should be 175 characters. :)
• Or even:

• that Family 1, a closely related group of Greek New Testament manuscripts place the story of the woman caught in adultery not in chapter 8, but at the end of the Gospel of John as a separate story?
• That is 197 characters.

Let's go with the one that is 175 characters. Full review still needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:35, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

He Tianzhang

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• ... that though the Jesuit missionary He Tianzhang despised his "sad Chinese appearance", it allowed him to circumvent the Qing's ban on Christianity and enter China? Source:
  "sad Chinese appearance" came from Pina, Isabel Murta (2013). ""Hand and Feet of Us All": Chinese and Mixed Parentage Jesuits from the China Mission (1589–1689)" (PDF). In Yu Taishan; Li Jingxiu (eds.). 絲瓷之路——古代中外關係史研究 [The Road of Silk and Chinaware: Studies on the History of Ancient China-Foreign Relations]. Beijing: 商務印書館 (Commercial Press). ISBN 978-7-100-09902-8. The fact that He Tianzhang reentered China because he was Chinese-looking came from pp. 65–66, Witek, John W. (2009). "Confucian practices and Christian principles in the Qing period: A Jesuit pastor, Francis Xavier do Rosario He Tianzhang (1667-1736)". In Philip Vanhaelemeersch; Rachel Lu Yan (eds.). Silent force: Native converts in the Catholic China mission. Leuven: Ferdinand Verbiest Institute. pp. 59–73. ISBN 978-90-814-3650-2.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cisco (wine)
  • Comment: Too funny to leave a comment.

Created by TheLonelyPather (talk). Self-nominated at 19:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/He Tianzhang; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Tapir!

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• ... that Tapir!'s album The Pilgrim, Their God and the King of My Decrepit Mountain tells the story of a pilgrim travelling through a world of green hills and red creatures? Source: God Is In The TV review and Brighton and Hove News gig review
  • ALT1: ... that Tapir! often wear red papier-mâché heads while performing, representing the character of "The Pilgrim"? Source: DIY Magazine interview
  • ALT2: ... that Tapir!'s album The Pilgrim, Their God and the King of My Decrepit Mountain contains three acts, each opening with narration by Kyle Field? Source: "Each of the three acts, the first two of which dropped as separate EPs last year, open with a brief spoken introduction from Kyle Field of Californian act Little Wings"
  • ALT3: ... that the climax of Tapir!'s track "Gymnopédie" has been described as sounding "like it's performed teetering on the edge of a cliff"? Source: "Creating a lush waltz time backing track to house lyrical visions of a dysfunctional heaven, at the climax of the track, the whole thing opens out into a glorious lo-fi symphony that sounds like it’s performed teetering on the edge of a cliff"
  • ALT4: ... that Tapir!'s track "Eidolon" was inspired by a Walt Whitman poem? Source: ""...this EP is probably my favourite as it pulls the most inspiration from biblical and mythical sources," says vocalist Ike Gray. "Eidolon being stolen from a Walt Whitman poem,""
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: Lots of great options for hooks here. No QPQ required.

Created by Suntooooth (talk). Self-nominated at 19:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tapir!; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Raoul Augereau

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• ... that Raoul Augereau transferred to the air force from the army during World War I, but returned to infantry combat during the Battle of France? Source: https://www.francebleu.fr/emissions/histoires-du-poitou-avec-patrick-sitaud/poitou/quel-est-le-lien-entre-la-rue-raoul-augereau-a-la-creche-et-l-histoire-de-l-aviation
  • ALT1: ... that Raoul Augereau continued military service as a pilot despite his leg being damaged in World War I combat? Source: https://www.francebleu.fr/emissions/histoires-du-poitou-avec-patrick-sitaud/poitou/quel-est-le-lien-entre-la-rue-raoul-augereau-a-la-creche-et-l-histoire-de-l-aviation
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Xiang Xuan
  • Comment: Have no preference.

Created by Lettler (talk). Self-nominated at 16:34, 26 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Raoul Augereau; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Articles created/expanded on January 27

Philipp Tanzer

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• ... that Philipp Tanzer has been an army medic, artist, firefighter, hairdresser, massage therapist, festival organiser, political candidate and gay porn star? Source: https://archive.ph/20210913110750/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ex-porn-actor-will-stand-in-scottish-elections-for-holyrood-kdxb3lqlr
  • ALT1: ... that a men's rights activist has played a cowboy and an alien researcher in gay pornographic films? Source: https://avn.com/business/articles/gay/sci-fi-meets-sex-in-raging-stallion-s-the-visitor-350098.html, and https://avn.com/business/articles/gay/to-the-last-man-big-budget-porn-meets-zane-grey-53965.html
  • ALT2: ... that a men's rights activist has been a gay porn star, massage therapist and candidate for the Scottish Family Party? Source: https://archive.ph/20210913110750/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ex-porn-actor-will-stand-in-scottish-elections-for-holyrood-kdxb3lqlr
  • Reviewed: [[]]

Improved to Good Article status by Pretzelles (talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 30 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Philipp Tanzer; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

San Rafael Falls

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• ... that San Rafael Falls, once the largest waterfall in Ecuador, disappeared in February 2020? Source: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/esp.5751
  • Reviewed:

5x expanded by Shannon1 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:42, 29 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/San Rafael Falls; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - Article says that the waterfall retreated upstream and disappeared over a few months, rather than just in February. A direct citation is also needed (the mention in the lead is ideal for hook eligibility).
• Interesting:

QPQ: - Pending
Overall: An interesting and tragic article; I would like to see the hook issue cleared up, but otherwise the article looks great. SounderBruce 05:00, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Tidy Trax

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• ... that Tidy Trax commemorated the 25-year anniversary of the death of the godfather of UK hard house? Source: Guttridge-Hewitt, Martin (13 July 2023). "Tidy Trax commemorates Tony de Vit's 25th anniversary with compilation featuring Patrick Topping, Nicole Moudaber, more: Listen". DJ Mag. Archived from the original on 21 January 2024. Retrieved 27 January 2024.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Max Glatt

Created by ResonantDistortion (talk). Self-nominated at 10:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tidy Trax; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Hiss (song)

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• ... that Megan Thee Stallion raps a reference to Megan's Law in her song "Hiss"? Source: People
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dolly de Leon

Created by BeyPolite (talk). Nominated by MaranoFan (talk) at 19:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hiss (song); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Could be better worded. Remember most readers won't have context. How about: ... that Megan Thee Stallion raps a reference to a federal law pertaining to the sex offender registry on her song "Hiss"? Zanahary (talk) 07:07, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

• That's much longer, and I think the law's name being the same as the rapper adds to both catchiness and interestingness.--NØ 07:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Arthur Lewis Hall

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• ... that from 1904 to 1911 Arthur Lewis Hall covered 17,479 miles (28,130 km), mostly by foot, to map the geology of the Transvaal? Source: https://journals.co.za/doi/epdf/10.10520/AJA10120750_2088
  • ALT1: ... that between 1904 and 1911 Arthur Lewis Hall mapped the geology across 16,388 square miles (42,440 km²) of the Transvaal, South Africa? Source: https://journals.co.za/doi/epdf/10.10520/AJA10120750_2088
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/August Palmisano

Created by Chaiten1 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:21, 28 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Arthur Lewis Hall; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Starting review. Updates to follow. Ktin (talk) 21:13, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria for newness. Is long enough and no issues with neutrality / tone. Article is well-sourced to seemingly reputable journals. No issues there. I am assuming good faith on some of those, particularly ones that I can not access. Hooks are interesting and are well sourced. Was able to access the text. Have a few notes that I have included re: the hooks. Please see. QPQ done. Earwig shows no issues. Nice and clean article. Ktin (talk) 21:22, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Notes Below:

Hooks:

• Both hooks are interesting. Is there merit in rounding the numbers e.g. covered ~17,500 miles (~28,000 kms)?
• Can we add South Africa in the hook so folks who do not know the region know that we are talking about a province in SA?

Lede:

• Can we clarify / qualify what BIC was? i.e. in a phrase or two saying what BIC was and where it is.
• If the above is done you can separate the Royal society part into the next sentence

Body:

• In writing biographies, I have seen the sections -- Early life, Career (or alternately Works), and Personal life, be used. If you'd prefer the content can be reorganized that way
• Early life
  • Please can we add the date of birth in this section as well.
  • Who was Philip Lake? e.g. British geologist
  • Similarly, who was W.J. Lewis? e.g. South African explorer
• Career
  • I like the way you had conversions in the hook between miles and kms, consider the same in the article too. The numbers can remain precise here or rounded up / down based on your preference
  • Awards can be a sub-section under career or can be the last paragraph within career section
• Selected publications
  • Can you add ISBN numbers to the books, if available
• Personal life
  • Please add a line or two about death. The details are available in the first link

Overall, a very nice and neat article. Well done. Please address as you deem fit. Ktin (talk) 21:33, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

@Chaiten1: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:24, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Sodankylä Old Church

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The Sodankylä Old Church in 2019

• ... that the Sodankylä Old Church (pictured) from 1689 is one of Finland's oldest and well preserved wooden churches? Source: https://www.visitsodankyla.fi/en/museums-and-attractions/sodankyla-old-church/
  • Reviewed:

Created by Juustila (talk). Self-nominated at 18:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sodankylä Old Church; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Starting the review now. Updates to follow. Ktin (talk) 04:02, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - Note below.

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria. New. Long enough. No concerns with Earwig nor with tone. Some amount of copy edits might be required. Will note them below. Image is a nice one. Image seems to have been uploaded as "own work" with geo-location enabled. So, no concerns there. QPQ not needed. Ktin (talk) 04:55, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

• Hook
  • Hook says that the church is "one of Finland's oldest and well preserved wooden churches". The source however says [the church] ... is one of Finland’s oldest preserved wooden churches. So, basis this source, the first part of the hook is quoted and the latter part (i.e. "well preserved") is a subjective opinion that is not born by the quote. Furthermore, when we say the statement in the latter part of the hook, we should quote it to a source that is independent. Currently, the source links to the city's tourism website if I understand it correct -- that might not be the best source.
  • Consider retaining the first part and remove the subjectivity in the second part unless we are able to source it to a reliable independent source. e.g. "the church is one of the oldest preserved wooden churches"

Article feedback below. The article is largely good with some improvement feedback below.

• Lede
  • "The church is considered one of the best preserved wooden churches in Finland" -- According to whom? Can we tie that statement to Finnish Heritage Agency? If so, this can be a compelling statement. However, if we are saying "According to Visit Lapland, the church is considered one of the best preserved wooden churches in Finland," that might not be compelling enough
• History
  • Some amount of copyediting might be required here across the section.
  • You could start with when construction began and when it was completed, rather than starting with when construction was completed and then coming back three sentences later to say when construction might have started.
  • "Valuable persons" -- consider rewording this phrase. Prominent people? Consider adding a few examples of these prominent people
  • "is best preserved as a mummy" -- reword this phrase
  • "renovated again in 1979–1980 and 1992–1995" -- if you are giving a range of dates consider using "between" instead of "in"
• Structure
  • "Medieval tradition" -- is there further qualification that can be added here? e.g. Medieval tradition of xxx
  • "Exceptional way" -- I do not know the architectural concepts here, but, are we trying to say the planking is different from normal rafter structure. If so, consider rewording
• Other Notes
  • Can we add any notes on what the church is used for currently? The Visit Sodankyla website says it is not open for visitors currently. Any details that you can add?

Handing this back to the nominator. Ktin (talk) 04:55, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Bow Lake (SeaTac, Washington)

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• ... that the city of Tacoma, Washington, incentivized building Seattle–Tacoma International Airport at Bow Lake by contributing $100,000? Source: https://www.historylink.org/file/1004
  https://www.seattlepi.com/seattlenews/article/History-Sea-Tac-International-Airport-WWII-planes-14089481.php
  • ALT1: ... that after the city of Tacoma, Washington, contributed $100,000 to build Seattle–Tacoma International Airport at Bow Lake, public concerns about heavy fog at the site were dismissed? Source: See above
  • ALT2: ... that the site where Seattle–Tacoma International Airport was built was named for tiny Bow Lake? Source: See above
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Awapoto River
  • Comment: Feel free to modify any hook as you see fit

Created by DirtyHarry991 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:24, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bow Lake (SeaTac, Washington); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

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Karl Frederik Kinch

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• ... that archaeologist Karl Frederik Kinch identified that a triumphal arch in Thessaloniki was dedicated to Roman Emperor Galerius? Source: https://journals.uio.no/CLARA/article/view/6689
  • ALT1: ... that archaeologist Karl Frederik Kinch found a tomb, and discovered within a lost 3rd-century BCE painting of a Macedonian cavalaryman? Source: p. 189-190 of Makedonien - Europas første stormagt, which is available on Wikipedia Library at Project MUSE if you want to confirm yourself.
  • ALT2: ... that archaeologist Karl Frederik Kinch identified the location of the philosopher Aristotle's hometown, Stagira? Source: p. 227 of Makedonien - Europas første stormagt, which is available on Wikipedia Library at Project MUSE if you want to confirm yourself. ("Det lykkedes Kinch at finde og identificere Aristoteles’ fødeby, Stageira")
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Heinrich Nidecker
  • Comment: If there's a shortage of DYK hooks with images, there's a public domain portrait, but I dunno if it's neat enough.

Created by SnowFire (talk). Self-nominated at 08:28, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Karl Frederik Kinch; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

First time conducting a review on something like this. Please bear with me.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: It looks good to me, always good to have a second opinion when it comes down to it. I have never nominated something before, but I want to set some standards and do the QPQ portion early for my end, just so I get into the habit. This was a fascinating piece, since it tapped into a niche of Classical Greek scene that I have not read into before. ALT2 seems to be the most interesting, I highly recommend this one. ALT1 on the fresco despite being personally interested would seem generic compared to the Aristotle piece. NeverBeGameOver (talk) 05:08, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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Intermission (Hopper)

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• ... that the woman in the 1963 painting Intermission was described by Edward Hopper as an egghead? Source: Levin, Gail (1995). Edward Hopper: An Intimate Biography. New York: Alfred A. Knopf. pp. 558-559. ISBN 0394546644. OCLC 716046833.
  • ALT1: ... that Intermission can be viewed as a metaphor for the world as theater? Source: Kranzfelder, Ivo (1995). Edward Hopper, 1882-1967: Vision of Reality. Taschen. pp. 142-146.ISBN 3822890596. OCLC 34518704; Levin, Gail (1980). Edward Hopper: The Art and the Artist. New York: Norton, Whitney Museum of American Art. p. 55. ISBN 039301374X. OCLC 1033594780.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Concert abuse in 2023

Created by Viriditas (talk) and Tryptofish (talk). Nominated by Viriditas (talk) at 21:51, 3 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Intermission (Hopper); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Kenneth Raisbeck

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• ... that the character of Francis Starwick in Thomas Wolfe's semi-autobiographical novel Of Time and the River (1935) is based on the playwright Kenneth Raisbeck?
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  • Teicher, Morton I. (1993). Looking Homeward: A Thomas Wolfe Photo Album. University of Missouri Press. p. 8. ISBN 9780826208934.
  • Rintoul, M.C. (2014). "Raisbeck, Kenneth". Dictionary of Real People and Places in Fiction. Taylor & Francis. p. 763. ISBN 9781136119323.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Caspar Richter

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:34, 28 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kenneth Raisbeck; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Umrao Singh Sher-Gil

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• ... that Indian aristocrat and photographer Umrao Singh Sher-Gil left behind over 3000 prints that documented the life of his family, including daughter Amrita Sher-Gil, between Europe and India? Source: https://www.photoink.net/artists/thesher-gilarchives#biography
  • ALT1: ... that Indian aristocrat and photographer Umrao Singh Sher-Gil modeled himself on the Russian writer Leo Tolstoy? Source: https://ssaf.in/sher-gil-sundaram-family/
  • Reviewed:

5x expanded by Ktin (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Ktin (talk) at 07:38, 28 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Umrao Singh Sher-Gil; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Articles created/expanded on January 29

Sukadji Hendrotomo

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• ... that associate justice Sukadji Hendrotomo's daughter performed her marriage contract in front of his deceased body? Source: Jenazah Hakim Agung Hendrotomo Dikebumikan di TMP Kalibata *Puteri Bungsunya Lakukan Akad Nikah di Depan Jenazah Almarhum
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Claire Guichard

Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 23:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sukadji Hendrotomo; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Andrew Carnegie Mansion

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The Andrew Carnegie Mansion

• ... that the Andrew Carnegie Mansion in New York City was designed by "the only architects in the city who had not begged for a job"? Source: Ewing, Heather P. (2014). Life of a Mansion: the Story of Cooper Hewitt, Smithsonian Design Museum. Cooper Hewitt. pp. 20, 23.
  • ALT1: ... that several doorways in the Andrew Carnegie Mansion were shortened to draw attention away from Carnegie's short stature? Source: Conroy, Sarah Booth (October 3, 1976). "In Celebration of The Decorative Arts At the Cooper-Hewitt: Form and Function In Celebration of The Decorative Arts At the Cooper-Hewitt". The Washington Post. pp. E1, E2
  • ALT2: ... that one newspaper wrote that Andrew Carnegie planted trees around his New York City mansion to block views of a tavern? Source: "Carnegie Regards Old Landmark Unsightly: Planting Trees as Screen Between His Home and an Old Tavern". Courier-Journal. April 16, 1901. p. 4.
  • ALT3: ... that the Andrew Carnegie Mansion almost became a United Nations clubhouse after Carnegie's wife died? Source: "Carnegie Mansion is Offered to U.N.; Palatial House on 5th Avenue at 91st Would Be Club and Office Building". The New York Times. October 18, 1946.
  • ALT4: ... that in the 1990s, a designer sold her house in San Francisco to help pay for the renovation of the Andrew Carnegie Mansion in New York City? Source: Evans, Lynette (April 12, 1995). "Design museum to get $2 million from house sale". San Francisco Examiner. p. Z.3.
  • ALT5: ... that the Andrew Carnegie Mansion is connected to two townhouses that Andrew Carnegie was unable to acquire during his lifetime? Source: Gray, Christopher (March 1, 2012). "A Block With Andrew Carnegie's Stamp". The New York Times
  • Reviewed: Ove Jørgensen

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 15:19, 29 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Andrew Carnegie Mansion; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• @Epicgenius: 5x expanded and long enough. Comprehensive article and Earwig is 27% and only alerts to titles. QPQ is done and article is referenced, cited correctly and neutral. The image is free and renders well at this size. Under Site In a spot check of citations I am unable to confirm the 1902 date in this sentence "the mansion was near the north end of Fifth Avenue's Millionaires' Row when it was finished in 1902". I spot checked twenty other citations that matched.

1. AlT0 slight inconsistency - the source says begged for "the" job, but our hook says "a" job.
2. ALT1 states several doorways were shortened but we only list one shortened doorway in our article "The doorway to the office was only 6 feet (1.8 m) high"

I prefer those hooks if we can correct them and make them line up with our article. Bruxton (talk) 04:45, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: I see you corrected the 1902 issue Special:Diff/1202352925, and I will adjust the hooks above. Let me know if they are a good interpretation of the sources.

• ALT0a: ... that the Andrew Carnegie Mansion in New York City was designed by "the only architects in the city who had not begged for the job"? Source: Ewing, Heather P. (2014). Life of a Mansion: the Story of Cooper Hewitt, Smithsonian Design Museum. Cooper Hewitt. pp. 20, 23.
• ALT1a: ... that a doorway in the Andrew Carnegie Mansion was shortened to draw attention away from Carnegie's short stature? Bruxton (talk) 18:25, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
  • @Bruxton: Thanks for the review. I have no problem with the content of these hooks, though they will need a third editor to look at them, so I will mark these hooks as needing review. Epicgenius (talk) 18:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: If you had corrected them first.... it is my fault for being too quick. Good article EG and I am excited to review this as a GAN. Bruxton (talk) 19:24, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Mosque of Ulmas al-Hajib

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Muqarnas vault at the Mosque of Ulmas al-Hajib

• ... that the Mosque of Ulmas al-Hajib has the first "flat" muqarnas vault (pictured) in Cairo? Sources: 1) O'Kane, Bernard (2016). The Mosques of Egypt. American University of Cairo Press, p.92: "The portal itself is also the first to be vaulted with an array of flat muqarnas, paralleled later in the Mosque of Bashtak."; 2) Behrens-Abouseif, Doris (2007). Cairo of the Mamluks: A History of Architecture and its Culture. The American University in Cairo Press, p. 182: "The portal consists of a deep recess roofed with a flat stone muqarnas, which was a novelty in Cairo that was repeated twice later, [...]"
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/George Roper (ship)
  • Comment: Source note: unfortunately none of the relevant books are accessible online, but for what it's worth, a Google Books search can confirm the words used in that the second source: [56]. Image note: this image could also be used instead, if preferred.

Created by R Prazeres (talk). Self-nominated at 06:25, 29 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mosque of Ulmas al-Hajib; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Articles created/expanded on January 30

Facts (Tom MacDonald and Ben Shapiro song)

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Nicki Minaj

• ... that Nicki Minaj (pictured), who receives a shoutout from Ben Shapiro in his song "Facts", congratulated him when it reached number one on the iTunes chart? Source: Daily Dot
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ajantha (2009 film)

Created by Benmite (talk). Nominated by MaranoFan (talk) at 21:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Facts (Tom MacDonald and Ben Shapiro song); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Australian Cobberdog

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• ... that the Australian Cobberdog was the first breed of dog specifically created to act as therapy and assistance dogs? Source: https://www.cobberdogking.com/en/therapy-assistance-dog/australian-cobberdog-therapy-dog/
  • ALT1: ... that the Australian Cobberdog is the only type of labradoodle ever accepted by an independent kennel club? Source: https://www.australiancobberdog.com/history.html
  • ALT2: ... that the Australian Cobberdog has a gentle enough temperament that most are able to safely live with free rodents and birds? Source: https://bowwowinsurance.com.au/dogs/dog-breeds/australian-cobberdog/
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: This article is my first nomination so I anticipate having to make changes as needed - also the reason for no reviews

Created by Dionysius Miller (talk). Self-nominated at 16:39, 31 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Australian Cobberdog; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

The article is new enough and long enough. The article contains no plagiarism and is neutral, but I have some doubts over its sourcing: websites of breeders (which this article cites regularly) are not the high-quality, independent sources we want to use on Wikipedia. (See WP:INDEPENDENT and WP:RELIABLE for more information.) The best way forward would be to replace them with articles in scientific journals or the like. As to the hooks:

• ALT0: Is in the article, cited, and definitely interesting. But I have doubt that Dogking, as a commercial site, is a reliable source.
• ALT1: The article talks about the breed's acceptance as a "new pure breed by the semi-obscure Master Dog Breeders and Associates (MDBA), a worldwide breed registry". But that part doesn't say that they're the only labradoodle to accomplish this. (Do point me to the correct spot if I'm looking in the wrong place.) The sources used to back up the info are not of a high standard (a pet insurer's website and a Wordpress site).
• ALT2: Again, the fact is interesting and in the article, but the sourcing is not convincing.

@Dionysius Miller: the article and the hooks are in principle suitable for DYK. But I can't let this nomination go through since the sourcing is not compliant with Wikipedia's standards in many places. Take your time to really familiarise yourself with what makes a good source, taking as your staring point the links above. I will leave the nomination open in the meantime. Do notify me if you have any question. Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 09:55, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the feedback! I half figured that the (exceedingly obvious) conflict of interest for the sources might pose a problem, though the easily found and deeper sources have generally been as such. I did, however, just come up with a couple less Cobberdog biased (and in one case decidedly anti-Cobberdog) sources.

• ALT0: likely could work as "... that the Australian Cobberdog was the first pure breed of dog specifically created to act as therapy and assistance dogs?"

Source wise, this one relies on a little more of a pair if the biased DogKing is thrown. While this is again not an exceedingly scholarly source, it is a background on the purpose of the Australian Labradoodle through a non-Cobberdog source. This, in tandem with an article from a third-party creates the fact that the Aussie Lab (and by extension Cobberdog) was the first attempt at a unique breed specifically for being therapy/assistance dogs AND that the Aussie Lab is not recognized. DogKing is biased but does act as an opposing, agreeing source here and specifies the breed's nature as "first" more clearly.

• ALT1: This one should probably be able to work as proposed. The provided source does say "The Australian Labradoodle is a developing dog breed, not yet purebred." and "Labradoodles, sometimes called the American Labradoodle are primarily a hybrid dog[...]"

However, this is additionally shown by the previously mentioned Dog Academy article and by any source mentioning Labradoodles and/or Australian Labradoodles. If requested, I can absolutely supply those here also.

• ALT2: This one is only really particularly interesting when left as is so I'll defend it as written.

Yet again my favorite Dog Academy article says the dog is "a friendly, sociable dog that is active, playful, and good with children [and] other animals [and] is suitable for first-time dog owners." the other animals line does not mention birds & rodents specifically, though it is a decent defense to support the previously posted pet insurance page. Additionally, I'd contend that the pet insurance page is a reliable and reasonable enough source given that it is at least mostly impartial, given that it has profiles of most every breed and crossbreed, and should be more accurate by nature given that its purpose is to establish the health and actions inherent to any given breed with some accuracy.

this (very biased) source mentions birds and rodents specifically, as does DogKing which has come up in this response more than I intended, and this tabloid source obviously a tabloid is not a very acceptable source for Wikipedia for obvious reasons but it is worth mentioning in the context of the acceptance of a certain fact or concept.

@Modussiccandi: Thank you again for reviewing and especially for the feedback! Dionysius Miller^talk 15:14, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your patience! I think your problem lies a bit deeper than at the level of these hooks. To be eligible for DYK, the article as a whole needs to be well-sourced. To achieve this, you need to understand what sources can and can't be used on Wikipedia. For example, we do not generally use commercial websites as sources. (There are narrow exceptions, see WP:VENDOR.) Dog Academy clearly is commercial, as is the website of every single breeder. The article contains good, reliable sources (e.g. Pet-Specific Care for the Veterinary Team by Ackermann)-such sources must be the basis for the entire article to the complete exclusion of unreliable ones. If a particular piece of information cannot be found in reliable sources, it won't be able to feature in Wikipedia until it can.

So, my suggestion would be to clean up the article's sourcing first and then we can think about the hooks again. If you're unsure about what sources to use, do read WP:RS, WP:IS and perhaps WP:REFBOMB. Feel free to ask me for help at any time! Modussiccandi (talk) 09:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 31

Bosellia mimetica

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• ... that the sea slug Bosellia mimetica benefits from photosynthesis? Source: La limace bénéficie donc en outre des sucres synthétisés grâce à une photosynthèse* qui a lieu dans la paroi de son système digestif.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Anxious City

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 13:34, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bosellia mimetica; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• starting review--Kevmin § 19:43, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

• Article expansion is new enough and long enough. The first sentence of the Description is very close to the source article, are you able to rewrite it a bit more to avoid paraphrasing issues?--Kevmin § 21:28, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• courtesy ping @Cwmhiraeth:--Kevmin § 17:37, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Head Harbour Lighthouse

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East Quoddy Head Light, a.k.a. Head Harbour Lighthouse

• ... that there's an East Quoddy Head Lighthouse (pictured) and a West Quoddy Head Lighthouse across the bay from one another (in matching colors!) but that one is in Canada and the other is in the United States? Source: https://www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=1022
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  • Comment: East Quoddy and West Quoddy are an adorable pair of lighthouses in the Bay of Fundy between Maine, USA and New Brunswick, Canada. They're both painted a bright red and white, (with America's in patriotic stripes and Canada's with a classic St. George's Cross,) and are just a delightful twin site. I noticed there wasn't an article for East Quoddy (a.k.a. Head Harbour Light), so I wrote one up and am submitting this now, hopefully you like it!

Created by Garnet Moss (talk). Self-nominated at 03:32, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Head Harbour Lighthouse; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• I'm not sure this qualifies as a reliable source, it appears to be the self-published work of an amateur. nableezy - 16:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• It's a thorough, secondary source for information about many lighthouses, which further cites primary sources. I'm happy to submit other links to more authoritative sources, but I chose this one because it included info about both East and West Quoddy in the same body of text, so it seemed most relevant. (Also, sorry if this is bad protocol, this is my first DYK!) Garnet Moss (talk) 23:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Five-Pavilion Bridge

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The Five-Pavilion Bridge in Yangzhou

• ... that Yangzhou's Five-Pavilion Bridge (pictured) was built by salt merchants to welcome the Qianlong Emperor? Source: Chen Shouxiang; et al. (2022), "Architecture of the Qing Dynasty", A General History of Chinese Art, vol. VI, Berlin: Walter de Gruyter, p. 389.
  
  Olivová, Lucie B. (2009), "Building History and the Preservation of Yangzhou", Lifestyle and Entertainment in Yangzhou, NIAS Studies in Asian Topics, No. 44, Copenhagen: Nordic Institute of Asian Studies, p. 9.
  • ALT1: ... that Yangzhou's Five-Pavilion Bridge (pictured) has been reckoned China's most artistic and elegant bridge? Source: "Five-Pavilion Bridge", Official site, Yangzhou: Slender West Lake Scenic Spot, 2023.
  • ALT2: ... that the Five-Pavilion Bridge's (pictured) pavilions were destroyed by the Taiping Heavenly Army but subsequently rebuilt? Source: Chen Lifang; et al. (1986), The Garden Art of China, Portland: Timber Press, p. 23.
    
    Olivová, Lucie B. (2009), "Building History and the Preservation of Yangzhou", Lifestyle and Entertainment in Yangzhou, NIAS Studies in Asian Topics, No. 44, Copenhagen: Nordic Institute of Asian Studies, p. 17.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mystic, South Dakota
  • Comment: Kindly do not add any links to the hooks. DYK exists to promote the newly improved articles, and the curious can click through to any others.

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 17:38, 2 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Five-Pavilion Bridge; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Herwig Gössl

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• ... that Herwig Gössl is reported to have felt "great shock" at his appointment as an auxiliary bishop? Source: Renzikowski 2023: "Als Herwig Gössl 2014 von seiner Ernennung zum Weihbischof in Bamberg erfuhr, habe das einen "großen Schreck" in ihm ausgelöst."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Australian Cobberdog

Created by Modussiccandi (talk). Self-nominated at 10:03, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Herwig Gössl; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Xu Garden, Yangzhou

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"Four Bridges in Rain and Mist", a famed view from Xu Garden

• ... that Xu Garden was created by a benevolent public grateful for their local warlord? Source: Zhang Xiaohui (2015), "An Analysis of the Gardens Reflecting Democratic Revolution in the Republic of China" (PDF), International Conference on Arts, Design, and Contemporary Education, Amsterdam: Atlantis Press, p. 419.
  • ALT1: ... that Xu Garden in Yangzhou, China, is particularly famed for its woodwork and views? Source: Knowles, Christopher (1999), Exploring China, New York: Fodor's, p. 197. "Four Bridges in Mist", Official site, Yangzhou: Slender West Lake Scenic Spot, 2024.
  • ALT2: ... that Xu Garden is located within Yangzhou's Slender West Lake scenic area? Source: "Xuyuan Garden", Official site, Yangzhou: Slender West Lake Scenic Spot, 2023.
  • Reviewed: Bambie Thug

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 12:19, 31 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Xu Garden, Yangzhou; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

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Hindu Mela

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• ... that several organisers of the Hindu Mela were involved in a secret society that manufactured matchsticks? Source: Hogan, Patrick Colm; Pandit, Lalita (2003). Rabindranath Tagore: Universality and Tradition. Fairleigh Dickinson Univ Press. ISBN 9780838639801.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ray E. Dillon Jr.

Improved to Good Article status by Sohom Datta (talk). Self-nominated at 20:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hindu Mela; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Lasso (album)

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• ... that Lasso will mark Lana Del Rey's first official country album? Source: NME
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Pamatan

Created by Lk95 (talk). Nominated by MaranoFan (talk) at 19:39, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lasso (album); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Tasha Ghouri

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• ... that the Love Island 8 contestant Tasha Ghouri was born deaf? Source: https://www.ft.com/content/617d47b5-606a-427e-94fd-d518eaf94e0c
  • ALT1: ... that the Love Island 8 contestant Tasha Ghouri spent a week in early 2024 guarding dictionaries? Source: as above, plus https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/reality-tv/a46594851/love-island-tasha-ghouri-countdown/ for her being on Countdown and http://www.ukgameshows.com/ukgs/Countdown for her role on Countdown being traditionally called 'Guardian of the Dictionaries'
  • ALT2: ... that the Love Island 8 contestant Tasha Ghouri later became an ambassador for eBay, Ann Summers, L'Oréal and Cadbury? Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/love-island-tasha-ghouri-ebay-b2142950.html for ebay, https://underlinesmagazine.com/2023/08/15/ann-summers-launches-luminescent-collection/ for ann summers, https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/showbiz-news/itv-love-islands-tasha-ghouri-25083042 for l'oréal, https://virginradio.co.uk/entertainment/74807/love-islands-tasha-ghouri-fronts-cadburys-campaign-to-encourage-bsl-lessons for cadbury's - although I suppose this hook relies on knowing that the first three are broadly fashion related and cadbury's chocolate
  • ALT3: ... that Tasha Ghouri taught Queen Camilla how to tap dance? https://news.sky.com/video/queen-says-she-always-wanted-to-tap-dance-during-visit-to-community-centre-in-cambridge-13062198
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/I'm God
  • Comment: I very much prefer ALT1, for no reason other than I am a big fan of Countdown.

Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 11:57, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tasha Ghouri; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• The article is new enough and long enough. I didn't detect any close paraphrasing, and the hooks are all cited inline and verified. I note the nominator's preference for ALT1, but given it seems more niche compared to the other hooks (Countdown, which I've never heard of before, may not be recognizable to non-UK or non-European readers), my preference is any of the other hooks. I do note that ALT3 is slightly inaccurate: the article and source say that Camilla was a participant in Ghouri's class, not that Ghouri directly taught her how to dance, so if we go with ALT3, a minor revision may be necessary. The reason why I am not approving this yet, hence the question mark icon, is I wonder if additional hooks could be proposed here regarding Ghouri's deafness and her recoding videos with her "deaf" voice getting praise. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

I was just about to propose "that Queen Camilla once took part in a dance class by Tasha Ghouri", before actually googling "tasha ghouri camilla", and it turns out she simply observed it as opposed to taking part, and given that watching Strictly is probably enough of a clue I'm minded to look elsewhere for hooks.

ALT4: ... that the Love Island 8 contestant Tasha Ghouri went viral in early 2024 after uploading a Get Ready With Me video to TikTok using her "deaf accent"? (Source says 'recently', actual video was January 2024.)--Launchballer 06:12, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

1999 Tempe military base shooting

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• ... that after the 1999 Tempe military base shooting, the Pan African Congress demanded a military funeral for the perpetrator? Source: https://allafrica.com/stories/199909220151.html
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: Sorry if this is too morbid! I've never nominated anything before.

Moved to mainspace by PARAKANYAA (talk). Self-nominated at 09:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1999 Tempe military base shooting; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

William N. Salin

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• ... that William N. Salin was twice decorated with the Sagamore of the Wabash? Source: https://www.indystar.com/obituaries/ins092261
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Girl soldiers

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 07:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/William N. Salin; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Marcos G. McGrath

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Marcos G. McGrath

• ... that Marcos G. McGrath (pictured), the Catholic archbishop of Panama, was allowed to enter Manuel Noriega's "witch house" and other residences, and found evidence of torture, devil worship, and voodoo? Source: https://www.jcs.mil/Portals/36/Documents/History/Monographs/Just_Cause.pdf
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Created by Maximilian775 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Marcos G. McGrath; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - Issue, found some similarities to a find a grave website from 2011 ish ([[57]], and another [[58]]

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image eligibility:

• Freely licensed: - Unknown, under discussion at commons
• Used in article:
• Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Too many copyright issues to accept right now. (first time with DYK, 2O welcome(ping me for response)) Geardona (talk to me?) 02:02, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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Articles created/expanded on February 2

So Sethaputra

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• ... that So Sethaputra compiled his authoritative English–Thai dictionary while in prison, the manuscripts being smuggled out for publication? Source: "he was compiling the dictionary while serving a jail term as a political prisoner... Then there was the risky operation of smuggling the manuscript out to a publisher"[59]; "For much of the twentieth century the most authoritative English–Thai dictionary was the New Model English–Thai Dictionary, secretly compiled in Bangkok’s Bang Khwang prison in the 1930s by So Sethaputra"[60]
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mori Calliope

Created by Paul_012 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/So Sethaputra; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Itutumba Ka ng Tatay Ko

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• ... that singer and actor Janno Gibbs made his directorial debut with Itutumba Ka ng Tatay Ko? Source: Janno Gibbs’ directorial debut film is ‘best parting gift’ from late dad Ronaldo Valdez - The Philippine Star
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Created by RapMonstaXY (talk). Self-nominated at 13:14, 2 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Itutumba Ka ng Tatay Ko; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Even as someone familiar with Gibbs, the hook probably won't appeal to those outside the Philippines, so a new hook is probably needed here. Maybe a hook about the connection with his late father would be better? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Hsinchu Kuang-Fu Senior High School

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• ... that the principal of a high school in Taiwan resigned after students held a Nazi-themed parade, complete with mock uniforms and a cardboard tank? Sources: Tsai, Chang-sheng (26 December 2016). "Principal resigns over Nazi outrage". Taipei Times.; Wang, Amy B. (27 December 2016). "A Taiwanese teacher asked his students to vote on a parade theme. They chose Adolf Hitler". Washington Post.
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I have not yet reviewed another DYK nomination, but this is only my fourth nomination. I will review other DYK nominations before my next nomination. Yue🌙 01:08, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Created by Yue (talk). Self-nominated at 01:08, 2 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hsinchu Kuang-Fu Senior High School; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Alfred de Laage de Meux

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De Meux, ca. 1915–1917

• ... that Alfred de Laage de Meux and Georges Thenault were the only two aviators in the aviation unit Lafayette Escadrille? Source: A Fraternity of Arms: America and France in the Great War, page 23
  • ALT1: ... that Alfred de Laage de Meux received the rank Brevet without completing aviation school, in which he was only the few to do so? Source: The Lafayette Escadrille: A Photo History of the First American Fighter Squadron, Chapter II: The Escadrille Américane is born.
  • ALT2: ... that Alfred de Laage de Meux taught himself on how to operate an aircraft, later becoming a lieutenant? Source: The Vivid Air, the Lafayette Escadrille, page 28, The Lafayette Escadrille: A Photo History of the First American Fighter Squadron, Chapter II: The Escadrille Américane is born.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1770s Pacific Northwest smallpox epidemic
  • Comment: QPQ coming soon.

Created by Tails Wx (talk). Self-nominated at 15:36, 2 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Alfred de Laage de Meux; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Articles created/expanded on February 3

WUXP-TV, WLMT

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• ... that TV stations in Nashville and Memphis, Tennessee, both on channel 30, lost their Fox affiliations in 1990? Source: https://archive.org/details/sim_televisionweek_1991-01-07_10_2_0/page/n3/mode/2up?q=WXMT pp 1, 134
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Big Foot (Nicki Minaj song) and Template:Did you know nominations/Taubaté pregnancy hoax
  • Comment: Both pages are new GAs within the last week (WUXP, then WLMT).

Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 20:00, 8 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/WUXP-TV; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Fursan al-Aqsa: The Knights of the Al-Aqsa Mosque

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• ... that the video game Fursan al-Aqsa received an update that allows players to reenact the October 7 attacks on Israel? Source: https://www.ynetnews.com/business/article/hkx5cnud6
  • ALT1: ... that the video game Fursan al-Aqsa had a peak of 10 players in October 2023 but received widespread criticism for its portrayal of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict? Source: https://www.newsweek.com/video-game-palestinian-killing-israelis-backlash-1852237
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Twink Twining
  • Comment: It's a controversial topic so I'll understand if it doesn't run, but I tried to make sure it's balanced.

Created by BuySomeApples (talk) and Thisisarealusername (talk). Nominated by BuySomeApples (talk) at 05:27, 7 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Fursan al-Aqsa: The Knights of the Al-Aqsa Mosque; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Comment The article may not be notable at all, violating the notability requirement of WP:DYK, as it uses several unreliable sources, including Hooked Gamers, one of the sites that reviewed the game. Additionally, even if it were notable, if all a game is known for is a controversy, then the controversy itself would be notable rather than the game. There are also some WP:UNDUE issues with the writing, as the article describes the perpetrators as "freedom fighters" without clarifying it is a fringe viewpoint. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

I tweaked the dev's quotes to fix the UNDUE concerns, but I'm pretty sure this meets notability requirements. We have Haaretz, Jerusalem Post and Ynet articles about it, and some games do become notable mostly because of controversy. I don't think having a standalone page about the controversy would be better than the current page. Hooked Gamers wouldn't be enough to meet notability requirements on its own, but it seems reliable enough to include (it seems to have editorial standards and Metacritic counts it). BuySomeApples (talk) 02:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Metacritic counts numerous websites that are considered (by Wikipedia) to be unreliable. It does have metrics where it counts smaller sites less, but we don't have said metrics, it's all or nothing. Hooked Gamers blatantly states they are "volunteer-run" and it does not mention editors, only contributors. It is clear that they are not experts, I don't see why they should be taken any more seriously than someone's blog. It's not mentioned in WP:VG/S, but if it were it would likely be strictly in the unreliable column.

The reason why a solely controversial game cannot be encyclopedic in the absence of reviews is that WP:INDISCRIMINATE requires something to demonstrate its "development, design, reception, significance, and influence". Said game would have no influence, and would fall under WP:NOT. Having influence is demonstrated by some kind of commentary on the substance of the game and not just its broad themes. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:47, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

If you really have a problem with Hooked Gamers, the source can be removed but it's by far not the only or best ref supporting the article. Take the page to AfD if you're still worried about notability, it's the only way to get consensus. BuySomeApples (talk) 06:04, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Mary Lake Polan

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• ... that gynecologist Mary Lake Polan wrote a medical mystery novel to "de-mystify" the procedures behind in vitro fertilization? Source: ""One reason I wrote the book is to demystify the new techniques being used in infertility clinics," she says. "People talk about things like in vitro - fertilization, but I'm not sure how many people know what it means. If people come to understand it through reading a medical thriller, maybe it won't seem so scary or bizarre."" - Doctor-Author Delivers Realistic Mystery Novel
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mike "Hitman" Wilson

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self-nominated at 19:29, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mary Lake Polan; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

The Seoul Press

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• ... that The Seoul Press was an English-language newspaper published to justify Korea's colonial rule under Japan? Source: [61] The Seoul Press (published 1907-1937) was Japan’s Korean news flagship. Its mission was to validate the natural justice of Japanese imperialism in Korea, and Japan as the redeeming, organising, and modernising force in East Asia.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Line 19 (Wuhan Metro)

Created by Toobigtokale (talk). Self-nominated at 21:07, 3 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The Seoul Press; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Lianxing Temple

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• ... that the White Dagoba at the Lianxing Temple in Yangzhou was not built by Iranian nomads 1000 years ago? Source: Snow, Edgar; et al. (10 August 1929), "Journeying through Kiangsu: From Shanghai to the Capital via the Shanghai Nanking Railway", China Weekly Review, vol. XLIX, Shanghai: Millard Publishing Co., p. 568, for the fact that some people used to believe that. Every other source in the article and world for the fact that it's wrong.
  • ALT1: ... that the White Dagoba at the Lianxing Temple in Yangzhou was probably not originally made of an enormous pile of salt? Source: Morris, Edwin T. (1983), The Gardens of China: History, Art, and Meanings, New York: Scribner, p. 122, for the fact that it's a traditional story in China. "White Pagoda", Official site, Yangzhou: Slender West Lake Scenic Spot, 2023, for it probably being wrong in the opinion of the site's caretakers and official historians.
  • ALT2: ... that the Taiping rebels destroyed most of Yangzhou's Lianxing Temple but left its White Dagoba alone so it could be used as a watchtower? Source: Olivová, Lucie B. (2009), "Building History and the Preservation of Yangzhou", Lifestyle and Entertainment in Yangzhou, NIAS Studies in Asian Topics, No. 44, Copenhagen: Nordic Institute of Asian Studies, p. 17.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Barley
  • Comment: Kindly do not add extraneous links to the hooks. DYK is here to promote the newly created articles and readers can click through if interested.

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 20:13, 3 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lianxing Temple; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

R. Champakalakshmi

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• ... that Indian historian R. Champakalakshmi was a script consultant for Bharat Ek Khoj a television series based on Jawaharlal Nehru's The Discovery of India? Source: http://archive.org/details/HindSwaraj-BEK-00
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sodankylä Old Church

5x expanded by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 17:21, 3 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/R. Champakalakshmi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Articles created/expanded on February 4

2026 FIFA World Cup final

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• ... that the 2026 FIFA World Cup final will be hosted by a stadium that is cutting corners? Source: The Guardian
  • Reviewed: KOVR
  • Comment: More hooks to be added soon, but I think a humorous one would work well if it's allowed.

Moved to mainspace by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 21:06, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2026 FIFA World Cup final; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• General eligibility:
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QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article is new enough (moved from draftspace on February 4) and long enough (2,440 characters of readable prose) with no copyright issues picked up by Earwig. QPQ was done and the hook is interesting and verified by the given ref. @SounderBruce: I like the joke hook, but definitely add more hook options before I approve this, just in case it isn't allowed. -- ZooBlazer 04:25, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Gender and sexual minorities in the Ottoman Empire

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• ... that throughout its existence, gender and sexual variance in the Ottoman Empire was depicted in Ottoman literature and art? Source: Numerous throughout the article; see "Literature and art" section
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  • Comment: Was not sure what would be the best hook for this article, please let me know if anyone can think of a better one.

Created by GnocchiFan (talk). Self-nominated at 18:04, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gender and sexual minorities in the Ottoman Empire; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

John Cowans

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Lieutenant General John S Cowans.

• ... that British Prime Minister H. H. Asquith described John Cowans (pictured) as "the best Quartermaster since Moses"? Source: https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,751323,00.html
  https://www.nwemail.co.uk/features/nostalgia/16447553.praise-for-cumbrian-who-kept-the-troops-supplied/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Treasury General Account

5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:15, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/John Cowans; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Nigerian Chieftaincy

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• ... that Nigeria's upper class, the chieftaincy, is a legally recognized aspect of the country's demographics and may be its oldest continuously existing institution? Source: F.I. Sotunde (2000), "The Egba Chieftaincy Institution", Chapter One.
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Created by O.ominirabluejack (talk). Self-nominated at 03:32, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Nigerian Chieftaincy; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Paleoallium

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Paleoallium billgenseli scape and floretes

• ... that propagation in the fossil amaryllis relative Paleoallium (pictured) may have been with floods or pollinators? Source: Pigg, Bryan, & DeVore 2018 "Why Produce a Combination of Bulbils and Flowers? paragraphs 2 & 3"
  • ALT1: ... that while named for alliums, the fossil Paleoallium (pictured) was not specifically named as directly related to any allium species? Source: Pigg, Bryan, & DeVore 2018 "Establishment of New Taxon: For our model, we illustrate Allium cepa var. proliferum, known as the Egyptian walking onion (figs. 1I, 2E, 3A, 4F); however, we do not imply a direct relationship to this or another particular modern species."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Crassispira incrassata

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 03:01, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Paleoallium; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Articles created/expanded on February 5

Lottie Williams, actress born 1866

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Maple Leaf Rag (1899)

• ... that actress Lottie Williams was one of the cakewalk dancers depicted on the front cover of the original sheet music for Scott Joplin's "Maple Leaf Rag" (pictured)? Source: Berlin, Edward A. (1996). King of Ragtime: Scott Joplin and His Era. Oxford University Press. p. 59. ISBN 9780195356465.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Native American genocide in the United States

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:50, 6 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lottie Williams, actress born 1866; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Lovro Šitović

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• ... that Lovro Šitović, a 17th-century Croatian Franciscan friar who wrote a Latin grammar, was a convert from Islam? Source: Pavičić, Vlado (2008). "Fra Laurentius de Gliubuschi: Aleksandar(ović), Sitović ili Šitović?" [Fra Laurentius de Gliubuschi: Aleksandar(ović), Sitović or Šitović?]. Radovi Zavoda za povijesne znanosti HAZU u Zadru (in Croatian) (52): 193–211. Retrieved 6 February 2024.; Andrić, Ivo (1990). The Development of Spiritual Life in Bosnia Under the Influence of Turkish Rule. Durham, North Carolina: Duke University Press. ISBN 9780822382553.
  • ALT1: ... that Lovro Šitović, a 17th-century Franciscan friar, wrote Latin grammar in Croatian, which was used more than a century after its first publication? Source: Pavičić, Vlado (2008). "Fra Laurentius de Gliubuschi: Aleksandar(ović), Sitović ili Šitović?" [Fra Laurentius de Gliubuschi: Aleksandar(ović), Sitović or Šitović?]. Radovi Zavoda za povijesne znanosti HAZU u Zadru (in Croatian) (52): 193–211. Retrieved 6 February 2024.; Boban, Luciana; Grubeša, Josip; Jurčić, Jelena (2022). Polivalentnost latinskog jezika u Bosni i Hercegovini: Specifičnosti latiniteta u Hercegovini [Polyvalence of the Latin language in Bosnia and Herzegovina: Specificities of Latinity in Herzegovina] (in Croatian). Mostar: University of Mostar. ISBN 9789958162183.
  • Reviewed:

Created by Governor Sheng (talk). Self-nominated at 21:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lovro Šitović; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Potiki

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• ... that despite the novel Potiki being about the impact of land development on an indigenous community, author Patricia Grace did not mean for it to be seen as political? Source: [62] "The book was described as political. I suppose it was but I didn’t realise it. The land issues and language issues were what Māori people lived with every day and still do. It was just everyday life to us, and the ordinary lives of ordinary people was what I wanted to write about, so I didn’t expect the angry reaction from some quarters."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Vanessa Weenink
  • Comment: The QPQ linked was a multi-article DYK; the specific article I reviewed for it was Grant McCallum. Alas, I've already used the fact about there being no glossary of Māori words in a DYK for Grace's article, otherwise that would be a great hook.

Improved to Good Article status by Chocmilk03 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:13, 5 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Potiki; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Dave Jamerson

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• ... that Dave Jamerson was the first NCAA Division I men's basketball player to make 14 three-point shots in a game? Source: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-12-23-sp-612-story.html
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nadia Smyrnytska‎
  • Comment: 1st of 3 QPQs for this nom

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 21:32, 5 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Dave Jamerson; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

There's a "citation needed" tag in the article that needs addressing. Gatoclass (talk) 11:48, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Paula Arai

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• ... that Paula Arai, a Buddhist studies scholar, used ethnography to study Buddhist laywomen and nuns? Source: Tsomo, Karma Lekshe. (2021). "Paula Kane Robinson Arai: Navigating Cultural Intimacy and Scholarly Authority". In Challenging Bias against Women Academics in Religion; Colleen Hartung, ed., p. 185.
  • ALT1: ... that Paula Arai experienced racial and sexual discrimination as a scholar because she embedded herself in the lives of the Japanese Sōtō Zen women she studied? Source: Tsomo, Karma Lekshe. (2021). "Paula Kane Robinson Arai: Navigating Cultural Intimacy and Scholarly Authority". In Challenging Bias against Women Academics in Religion; Colleen Hartung, ed., p. 194-196.
  • Reviewed: Calypso Cabaret

Created by Figureskatingfan (talk). Self-nominated at 21:12, 5 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Paula Arai; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Porij

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• ... that the British band Porij was formed after a member's friend's band dropped out of a Leeds gig with a week's notice? Source: https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-radar/porij-genre-splicing-art-pop-interview-2812635
  • ALT1: ... that the members of the British band Porij cut their parts in their bedrooms? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/nov/28/one-to-watch-porij-breakfast-oat-gang-rncm
  • ALT2: ... that porij contains egg? Source: https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2021-10-01/granada-introducing-baby-face-band-porij
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Disappearance of Cecilia Strzyzowksi
  • Comment: Created 26 January by Randall Peltzer, 5x expanded today by me around 9.25 days later. I leave it to the reviewer to decide whether he should be credited.

5x expanded by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 11:44, 5 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Porij; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

"Cuts their parts" is puzzling and sounds like self-harming or something. Suggest you rephrase that. Gatoclass (talk) 01:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

It was my understanding that 'cut' meant the same as 'record'. ALT3: ... that the members of the British band Porij record their parts in their bedrooms?--Launchballer 19:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Okay, a few issues. Firstly, ALTs 1 and 3 won't work because the source dates to 2020 and we don't know if they still record their parts in their bedrooms, secondly, I really like ALT2 and if I had my druthers would run it as is, but it has two issues, firstly that all sources but one appear to refer to the singer as "Eggy" rather than "Egg", and secondly it may attract the MOS police because of the lack of capitalization; and thirdly, the original hook is not very interesting. Any chance of coming up with a different hook or two? Gatoclass (talk) 08:13, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Egg appears to be Moore's most recent stage name per their record label (and umpteen rewritten press releases), is the name used when remixing per Spotify, and is the name they use on their own Facebook account; my guess is that Eggy is a nickname among bandmembers. (It's a crying shame their first EP Breakfast doesn't meet notability guidelines.)

ALT4: ... that Porij called their record label Oat Gang because DistroKid wanted a label name? (Source: https://diymag.com/interview/porij-baby-face-ep-august-2021-interview)

ALT5: ... that the lead singer of Porij uses they/them pronouns? (Source: https://www.nme.com/features/music-interviews/porij-band-manchester-interview-outlines-live-radar-3307357)

ALT6: ... that Piri pilfered Porij's guitarist for her own band after matching with him on Tinder? (Source: per ALT5, plus https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/piri-and-tommy-meet-the-rising-stars-of-pop-xbsjrwl8t for Tinder)

There's probably a really quirky hook in ALT6 involving lots and lots of alliteration ("plank-spanker" is a synonym for guitarist per NME and, well, Piri's other activities...), but I need to head out.--Launchballer 10:11, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

WNET (Rhode Island)

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• ... that a Rhode Island TV station, off the air for more than 15 years, successfully fought an attempt to have its operating authority canceled? Source: https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-BC/BC-1971/1971-03-01-BC.pdf#page=22
  • ALT1: ... that a Rhode Island TV station broadcast for 14 months and then was off the air for 26 years before returning? Source: https://www.genealogybank.com/newspaper-clippings/channel-16-going-air-sunday/jtmtexpkvtkyypohrxsqdgzpgkairwcl_ip-10-166-46-99_1707074689632 + Major, Jack (January 8, 1982). "Kids lose with Captain's new hours". The Providence Journal. p. A-11.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Englewood Golf Club
  • Comment: Though a new article on its own, this is a 5x expansion/split of WNAC-TV#As WNET (1953–1956) (2861 bytes readable prose size to 14419 bytes). WNAC-TV itself is going to be overhauled soon, so this section may not be in the current revision by the time this is reviewed. This article project turned up many errors, some fairly substantial, in our previous coverage.

Created by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 05:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/WNET (Rhode Island); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - See below.
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - ALT0 hook does not quite match the source or the article (which lists 13 years, not 15). ALT1 is scattered in the article without a direct mention of the length of time between airings.

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Once the hook issue is resolved, ALT0 should be good to go. ALT1 would need some in-article work to make the hook's facts clearer in the article. SounderBruce 21:18, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

• • @SounderBruce: That is an odd error, and it's in the source, but there's a reason for the discrepancy. I assumed that the court's ruling, and the article, mean 13 years from July 1955 to April 1969 (the FCC's deletion), and I'm pretty much right (this was said at committee hearing in January 1969, per the ruling by the appeals court). My calculation for the hook was from July 1955 to February 1971, when the appeals court issued its ruling. As to ALT1, I've tried to make this clearer in the lead. A more precise window can't be given because there unfortunately is no firm known start date for WSTG on 64 (one of two factbooks says it was in September 1981, but FCC filing dates, the other factbook, and newspaper coverage suggest December, possibly the final days of it, and in writing WNAC-TV, I chose to represent its start date as December 1981). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Billy Fitzgerald (lacrosse)

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• ... that Billy Fitzgerald finished second in a vote by Canadian writers that picked the best lacrosse player of the first half of the 20th century? Source: Canadian Lacrosse Hall of Fame
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Logan O'Hoppe

Created by Giants2008 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:32, 5 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Billy Fitzgerald (lacrosse); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

ALT0 is incorrect (he was voted second best Canadian player) and excessively wordy. Suggested alt:

• ALT1: ... that a journalists' poll rated Billy Fitzgerald the second best Canadian lacrosse player of the first half of the 20th century? Gatoclass (talk) 09:49, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Can't believe I missed that in the source. Thanks for the catch; it's been fixed in the article now. ALT1 definitely looks better than the first blurb. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 6

Joseph Bosworth (Kentucky politician)

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Joseph Bosworth

• ... that Joseph Bosworth (pictured) was the last Republican speaker of the Kentucky House of Representatives until the election of Jeff Hoover in 2017? Source: https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/ky-general-assembly/2016/11/10/hoover-pledges-fair-minority-dems/93585840/
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Created by FatCat96 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:26, 8 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Joseph Bosworth (Kentucky politician); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Juniperus scopulorum

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• ... that in a controlled experiment, a Bohemian waxwing ate 900 Rocky Mountain juniper cones in five hours? Source:
  • ALT1: ... that mule deer will turn some Rocky Mountain junipers into ice-cream trees? Source:
  • ALT2: ... that Rocky Mountain juniper is parasitized by a leafless species of mistletoe? Source:
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hypericum grandifolium
  • Comment: My QPQ is in progress, but I expect that it will be completed by the time this nomination is being reviewed. My editing of Juniperus scopulorum is ongoing and I'm open to ideas and suggestions for improvement. Right now ALT0 is worded "cones", but it could also be "berries" since that is also used for their fruits, I just thought it slightly more hook-y.5x expanded by MtBotany (talk). Self-nominated at 18:10, 7 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Juniperus scopulorum; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Run (meme)

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• ... that many Chinese youths study how to run away? Source: https://www.cfr.org/blog/runology-how-run-away-china
  • ALT1: ... that "runology" is the study of how to run away from China?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Black-billed magpie

Created by PetraMagna (talk). Nominated by BuySomeApples (talk) at 05:34, 7 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Run (meme); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Article is new enough and long enough. What makes this a reliable source? Where does #9 say that the meme had an enthusiastic reception? Gonna wonder if the Chinese government had anything to say (or do) about this thing. Didn't notice any copyvio or plagiarism. I'd go for ALT1. QPQ seems OK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:18, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

The site claims that they are established by Hong Kong University's Journalism and Media Studies Centre. I found confirmation of that claim on JMSC's site. There are older archives such as [63] and [64] whose domain name indicate that the project was a part of Hong Kong University. My speculation is that China Media Project became independent from Hong Kong University at some point, changed their domain, and moved to the US and Taiwan, which is not surprising considering the fate of other news services in Hong Kong (those are my guesses, though). An article from the Guardian quoted the director (Bandurski) in 2019 and stated that CMP is affiliated with HKU. I can keep digging for other sources, but I think this is good enough for establishing credibility. Bandurski is still the director and wrote the source quoted in the article, at least according to the China Media Project site, and I don't see indications of the site becoming an inferior source after becoming independent from HKU.

The "enthusiastic reception" sentence might be an extrapolation on my part. I will look around the source to see what made me think that and rewrite it if I can't find anything. As for governmental responses, I remember seeing some sources speculate that the term was invented to circumvent censorship, and search engines were preventing users from accessing internet search trends because of spikes in emigration-related queries. I can expand it in this respect in the next few days when I'm available. PetraMagna (talk) 17:29, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Most of the content concerns have been addressed. As for censorship, I added that the term was created to circumvent censorship. I don't believe the term is censored in China as of now, though I can still add censorship of immigration-related search result later. One remaining issue with the article is that the sections seem to blend together to me. Perhaps there's a way to better organize the article. PetraMagna (talk) 08:20, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

List of accolades received by The Last of Us (TV series)

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• ... that The Last of Us is the first live-action video game adaptation to receive major awards consideration? Source: Variety
  • ALT1: ... that Bella Ramsey considered withdrawing from awards consideration for The Last of Us due to the lack of non-gendered categories? Source: Vanity Fair
  • ALT2: ... that Bella Ramsey's Emmy nomination was the first for a non-binary actor in a leading role at the time of nomination? Source: The Hollywood Reporter
  • ALT3: ... that Keivonn Woodard is the second-youngest actor and first Black deaf actor to be nominated at the Emmys? Source: The hook combines info from two sources - Entertainment Weekly and Deadline
  • ALT4: ... that Pedro Pascal is the second Latino to be nominated for Lead Actor in a Drama Series since 1999? Source: Deadline
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2026 FIFA World Cup final

Created by ZooBlazer (talk) and Rhain (talk). Nominated by ZooBlazer (talk) at 05:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/List of accolades received by The Last of Us (TV series); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Chicago Community Bond Fund

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• ... that the Chicago Community Bond Fund sought to put itself out of business by eliminating cash bail? Source: https://digitalcommons.law.uw.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5152&context=wlr
  https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-activism/where-bail-funds-go-from-here
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Head Harbour Lighthouse

Moved to mainspace by Nableezy (talk) and Levivich (talk). Nominated by Nableezy (talk) at 16:29, 6 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Chicago Community Bond Fund; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Gorontalo (city)

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• ... that the city of Gorontalo is nicknamed Porch of Medina? Source: https://regional.kompas.com/read/2022/07/25/183813178/mengapa-gorontalo-disebut-kota-serambi-madinah
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Canada Centre Building
  • Comment: Newly expanded, QPQ soon, CE will be appreciated

Created by Nyanardsan (talk). Self-nominated at 14:38, 6 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gorontalo (city); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

R. Ames Montgomery

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Montgomery c. 1924

• ... that R. Ames Montgomery (pictured) resigned as president of Centre College after students petitioned to remove him for de-emphasizing football? Source: Weston, Centre College: a Bicentennial History (2019), p. 79
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Moved to mainspace by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 05:36, 6 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/R. Ames Montgomery; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Articles created/expanded on February 7

Elmwood Tower

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• ... that the Elmwood Tower may have once been the tallest building in Omaha? Source: https://journalstar.com/news/local/history/tall-tales-of-omahans-living-the-high-rise-life-in-masonic-manor/article_f90114d0-542f-52d5-8aa0-bd82a3a98b9b.html
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Waluigi

Improved to Good Article status by Etriusus (talk). Self-nominated at 04:31, 8 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Elmwood Tower; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Comets in fiction

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Halley's Comet

• ... that comets such as Halley's (pictured) are living entities in several works of fiction? Source: See the references in the second paragraph of Comets in fiction#Cometary life.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Penelope (platypus)
  • Comment: I am open to rephrasing the hook to make it more catchy.

Improved to Good Article status by TompaDompa (talk). Self-nominated at 21:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Comets in fiction; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Selfish (Britney Spears song)

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• ... that Britney Spears's 2011 song "Selfish" reached number one on the iTunes chart after the release of the Justin Timberlake song in 2024? Source: Variety
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/GBI (German Bold Italic)

Moved to mainspace by TommiF677 (talk). Nominated by MaranoFan (talk) at 07:27, 7 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Selfish (Britney Spears song); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Suggested alts:

• ALT1: ... that in 2024, fans helped drive Britney Spears's 2011 song "Selfish" to number one on the iTunes chart in response to her ex-boyfriend's release of a song with the same name?
• ALT2: ... that Britney Spears's 2011 song "Selfish" reached number one on the iTunes chart in 2024? Gatoclass (talk) 10:27, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 8

PHerc. Paris. 4

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• ... that it took a particle accelerator and machine-learning algorithms to extract the charred text of PHerc. Paris. 4 without unrolling it? Source: First passages of rolled-up Herculaneum scroll revealed

[[65]]

• • ALT1: ... that former CEO of GitHub Nat Friedman funded an effort to read the Herculaneum papyri such as PHerc. Paris. 4 without physically opening it? Source: University of Kentucky: 'Grand Prize' discovery made from 2,000-year-old Herculaneum scrolls [[66]]
  • ALT2: ... that an undiscovered work attributed to Greek philosopher Philodemus was found in the charred remnants of a papyrus scroll through machine learning algorithms? Source: First passages of rolled-up Herculaneum scroll revealed

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• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Karl Frederik Kinch

Created by NeverBeGameOver (talk), Ifly6 (talk), and StarTrekker (talk). Nominated by NeverBeGameOver (talk) at 05:34, 9 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/PHerc. Paris. 4; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Songs from Suicide Bridge

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Colorado Street Bridge in Pasadena, California

• ... that Songs from Suicide Bridge was recorded in a repurposed tool shed? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20221030060444/https://www.vice.com/en/article/rpyg9g/suicide-bridge-songs
  • ALT1: ... that Songs from Suicide Bridge gets its name from Pasadena's Colorado Street Bridge (pictured), a notorious suicide spot? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20150313175225/https://exclaim.ca/music/article/david_kauffman_eric_caboors_songs_from_suicide_bridge_reissued_by_light_in_attic
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Campbell's Soup Cans

Created by DigitalIceAge (talk). Self-nominated at 18:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Songs from Suicide Bridge; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Margaret Donahue

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Donahue in 1927

• ... that Margaret Donahue (pictured) came up with the idea of selling season tickets? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/chicago-tribune-female-cubs-exec-changed/140496164/
  • ALT1: ... that Margaret Donahue (pictured) was the first female executive in Major League Baseball? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/chicago-tribune-obituary-for-margaret-do/129789213/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mike Sadler

Created by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 05:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Margaret Donahue; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Beebo the God of War

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• ... that during the production "Beebo the God of War" the crew was concerned that they had jumped the shark? Source: https://comicbook.com/dc/news/legends-of-tomorrow-beebo-origins-the-cw/
  • ALT1: ... that "Beebo the God of War" features Martin Stein played by Graeme McComb, a character who in the previous episode was killed off and played by Victor Garber? Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/2017/12/06/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-beebo-the-god-of-war-review
  • ALT2: ... that the titular character in "Beebo the God of War" is a knock-off of Tickle Me Elmo? Source: https://comicbook.com/dc/news/legends-of-tomorrow-arthur-darvill-praises-beebo/
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  • Comment: QPQ not needed this is my third submission. The hooks could be rewritten if necessary I think they're quite good though

Improved to Good Article status by OlifanofmrTennant (talk) and Kailash29792 (talk). Nominated by OlifanofmrTennant (talk) at 05:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Beebo the God of War; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• This isn't a review but a comment, but I would suggest dropping ALT1 per WP:DYKFICTION (a hook about a work of fiction has to be primarily about the real world), and also because it seems very specialist and may not appeal to non-fans. Personally I think ALT2 is the best hook among the three proposals but I will let the reviewer decide. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:15, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Babe Ruth's funeral

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• ... that Life Magazine said Babe Ruth's funeral was the "kind of tribute normally reserved for kings and presidents"? Source: when when the Yankee slugger died from cancer at the age of 53, he received the kind of tribute normally reserved for kings and presidents. His funeral was a multi-day, multi-site affair,
  • ALT1: ... that The Brooklyn Daily Eagle said Babe Ruth's funeral attracted 180,000 people? Source: [Headline: 180,000 Brave Rain as Rites Are Held for Babe Ruth https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-brooklyn-daily-eagle-180000-brave-r/140446175/] T
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Laguna Honda Hospital
  • Comment: Extra QPQ for backlog Template:Did you know nominations/Nick Whiteside
    The funeral took place over three days and reports say 100,000 saw his body while it was displayed at Yankee Stadium and 80,000 came to the St. Patrick's cathedral. This does not even mention the reports of tens of thousands who came to Gate of Heaven Cemetery.

Moved to mainspace by Bruxton (talk). Self-nominated at 03:08, 8 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Babe Ruth's funeral; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

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